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[–] nick@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s never happening dude, sorry; this shit’s way too entrenched. Until we start killing lobbyists and billionaires off, ain’t shit changing. Might as well be pushing Jill stein.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The answer is organizing. Join the Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) or Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO). Only through organization outside the electoral system does the Proletariat have any hope of steering the ship and seizing the reigns.

If you do not organize, then you are fine with fascism.

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You haven't even demonstrated that there is a ship to steer. I'm very against fascism, which is why I'm voting for Kamala.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you mean, I haven't "demonstrated that there is a ship to steer?"

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Organizing has never led to someone getting into office. Voting has led to people getting into office.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Mambert@beehaw.org -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kinda an exception, don't you think?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The opposite, I'm arguing for revolution.

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't vote for the non-fascist and also organize for revolution?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fascism isn't an idea, it's a defense mechanism. Voting isn't going to matter, vote for whoever you like, I don't care. You can vote for Harris if you join an org, how about that?

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Then make good on it. Voting is less than the bare minimum.