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Just started getting this now. Hopefully it's some A/B testing that they'll stop doing, but I'm not holding my breath

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[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I might be out of my depth here, but isn't like virtually the entire internet powered by Javascript? What are the negative implications for Google requiring JS?

[–] m_f@midwest.social 18 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

A lot of the web is powered by JS, but much less of it needs to be. Here's a couple of sites that are part of a trend to not unnecessarily introduce it:

http://youmightnotneedjs.com/

https://htmx.org/

The negative implications for Google requiring JS is that they will use it to track everything possible about you that they can, even down to how you move your cursor, or how much battery you have left on your phone in order to jack up prices, or any other number of shitty things.

[–] Chingzilla@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Htmx does use javascript under the hood, but just makes it so the developer can use html markdown for more a more interactive environment that's driven sever side. So the initial page load should render, but UI elements might not work as intended.

htmx is more a move back to REST as it was originally defined (aka not json backend).

[–] m_f@midwest.social 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They're also working with browser developers to push htmx into web standards, so that hopefully soon you won't even need htmx/JS/etc, it'll just be what your browser does by default

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 9 points 17 hours ago

Jesus Christ no.

As a web developer, nooooooo.

[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 18 hours ago

Booo! I knew I made the right decision switching to DDG.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 0 points 17 hours ago

JS is like a disease where it does not need to be. I would honestly welcome an Internet alternative that was all web 1.0 (with up-to-date security updates and methods). There's good uses for it in interactive websites that provide cloud services, but most of it is fud and breaks the whole notion of HTTP GET URLs you can just share and cache.

[–] ShadowCatEXE@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

A large majority of modern web applications are built with Javascript… Both frontend and backend. You do still have a large majority of websites using plain HTML or PHP, with some features requiring JS to function (modals, realtime stats, data input, etc).

You also have alternative languages like Java or C# (and more), but also may use bits of JS on the frontend to drive functionality.

You can bet that the majority of websites you visit nowadays will use some form of JS, unless it’s a static webpage to display basic information.