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[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Highest pollution generating countries are communist πŸ˜‚

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago
[–] qaz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are you referring to China? Because that would be an exceptionally bad example.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yep, taking one of the most populous countries on the planet and judging it by total emissions is ludicrous, plus the PRC is drastically improving solar panel production and infrastructure. If the world was set to the same environmental standards as the PRC we wouldn't have nearly as much worry.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not just that, but pretending China isn't capitalist is wrong.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

China is Socialist. The overall system is Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, categorised as a largely Market-based economy carefully pruned, planned, and controlled by the government. The state ideology is Marxism-Leninism, and Xi Jinping Thought.

The notion that China must be Capitalist because it has markets could be applied to say the US is Socialist because it has a State-Run Post Office. What's important is the class that retains power.

In the US, private banks, large businesses, and exceedingly wealthy individuals direct the state. The state is run in their interests, and this guides policy more than anything.

In the PRC, the Proletariat is in control via the CPC. Capitalists are firmly kept in check and dealt with if they step out of line, there are large public infrastructure projects, real wages for the Proletariat are rising, and there aren't large privitization projects.

If you don't have a strong understanding of Marxism, it's easy to misanalyze whether or not a system is Socialist.

[–] Malidak@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly I think China will be the only country actually reaching their carbon emissionsl targets set in Paris. All these preaching democratic nations are failing theirs year after year.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Yep, hopefully their solar production forces mass adoption among other nations and we can get back on track to mitigate environmental damage.

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope, just being right about the CPC.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Tianamen Square was not about pollution so is unrelated.