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Police opened fire on a subway platform in Brooklyn during a confrontation with an alleged fare-beater, striking the man cops said was armed with a knife, two straphangers caught in the fray, and one of the firing officers, NYPD officials said Sunday.

One of those two passengers hit by the cops' bullets, a 49-year-old man, was hospitalized in critical condition after he was hit struck in the head, according to the NYPD.

The two officers who opened fire were assigned to patrol the Sutter Avenue subway stop in the 73rd precinct when they spotted a man skip the station turnstile and walk through an open gate toward the train platform, Chief of Department Jeffrey Maddrey explained at an evening press conference from Brookdale Hospital.

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People love to point at crime numbers on the subway but ignore the percentages, like yeah there's (making shit up , not actual numbers) 15 crimes a day but its NEW YORK CITY thats out of 50,000 rides or some shit. I did the actual math once and it was like 0.005% chance of a crime on the NYC subway, beats the hell out of auto numbers.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, did you know the NYC subway system moves about the same order of magnitude per day as the entire continental US air travel networks does. All those planes flying back and forth between countless different airports... the subway beneath NYC moves more people.

I think this statistic both puts into context the incredible order of magnitude power of subways for mass transit, and also helps put in perspective how dangerous they really are based on scary content uploading that is happening within a single subway car.... you gotta zoom your brain out to see the sea of perfectly boring subway cars transporting people to work and back every single day.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

That sounds nuts but having been there I wouldn't be terribly surprised. I think the crazy part is (living in a bible belt rural city surrounded by pro-car everything and the various internet fearmongers) how mundane it all feels even at it's peaks. Just a bunch of fucking people getting where they're going. I've never understood the allure of sitting in gridlock for over an hour over just sharing space with a bunch of other boring normal assholes for 30 minutes (or whatever.)

My best friends are very pro car and liberal in that "sure better public transit is needed but 'I'd' never use it it doesn't work for me cause XYZ" sorta way. I dragged them on an amtrak to DC, and took em on the subway up to our hotel and they're just like "......oh that was chill." Yeah, just fuckin people getting where they're going it's not a bath salt zombie apocalypse down here.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

I live in Taipei and the subway system is amazing. There is literally no crime on the MRT system here.

So less crime is possible. The USA needs to invest into the social services like we do here to get lower crime.