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[–] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Direct action is meaningless if you're hostile to building a coalition broad enough to actually gain any significant political power.

Spoken like someone who's never done organizing, participated in protests or any other direct action. You're a keyboard warrior who's probably never even interacted with a socialist IRL.

this is a democracy and without votes going to candidates who can win, it is ultimately meaningless.

Not a democracy and also I already gave 2 examples showing the contrary.

I remember being young and convinced socialism was the way forward. Then I grew the fuck up and did some introspection.

No need to be a condescending dick. I'm also guessing I'm older than you, not that it's relevant.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've participated in dozens of protests. Protests with political organization can lead to change. Protests without political organization are just yelling at a wall.

No need to be a condescending dick.

If you don't want someone to take offense at what you write, don't smugly tell them to learn introspection. Act like an arrogant dick, get treated like an arrogant dick.

[–] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Protests with political organization can lead to change. Protests without political organization are just yelling at a wall.

Right... I'm not sure why you think I'm not in favor of organized resistance.

If you don't want someone to take offense at what you write, don't smugly tell them to learn introspection. Act like an arrogant dick, get treated like an arrogant dick.

You were doing a "both sides" between anarchists and fascists, eerily similar to Trump, while claiming to be "left leaning". I think my response was warranted, if not understated. But frankly, that's plain ignorant.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like I said, attempting to degrade the only left leaning political coalition means someone is hostile to any sort of positive left leaning activism. If that doesn't describe a given anarchist, then what I said doesn't apply to them. If it does, then they might as well be a Trumpster.

[–] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 0 points 1 year ago

Who or what is this sole "left leaning political coalition"? If you're referring to Democrats they are neither left leaning nor a coalition. They are a center-right political party. Coalition implies multiple parties. And the Democratic party isn't exactly known for activism, unless you're counting fundraising events.