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Commissioned by the Arab American Institute (AAI), the online poll of 2,505 American voters conducted between July 31 and August 1 found that 44% of U.S. voters would back Harris, 40% would support Republican nominee Donald Trump, and 11% would vote third party “if the election for president of the United States were held today.”

But if Harris were to endorse a suspension of U.S. arms shipments and diplomatic support for Israel “until there was a cease-fire and withdrawal of forces from Gaza,” her national support would grow from 44% to 49%.

A majority of Democratic voters say the Gaza crisis is either very or somewhat important in determining how they vote in November, according to the AAI poll.

The new survey, which has a margin of error of 2 percentage points, is consistent with an earlier poll commissioned by the Institute for Middle Eastern Understanding Policy Project, which found that Harris would bolster her chances in key battleground states if she backed an arms embargo.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

Nowhere in the article does it state where these extra votes would be coming from.

A majority of Democratic voters say the Gaza crisis is either very or somewhat important in determining how they vote in November, according to the AAI poll.

Really? There are registered democrats who are honestly and seriously planning to vote for trump if Kamala doesn’t embargo Israel? Something is not adding up here.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A lot of Muslim democrats are refusing to vote for Harris because of this point. I don't think they're plannong on voting for Trump but I guess it's a possibility.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

The numbers don’t support your claim. She’s polling ahead of 2020 Biden with Muslim Americans (but the sample size is too small to actually rely on crosstab numbers here) and in Michigan.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You can find the details in pages 16-24 of the AAI poll linked in the first quoted paragraph

Edit: I'll add screenshots here for visibility

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think any potential Democrat voters would vote for trump. I agree that doesn’t make any sense. People are not energized to vote when your vote supports an active genocide either way. Your choices are ratchet to the right or a hellscape…if you give reasonable voters an appealing platform more would come out and cast a ballot. This ‘hands are tied’ position on Gaza is embarrassing and very disenfranchising

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, the obvious right answer here, and the morally correct thing to do, is to stop the weapons shipments. I can’t see any downside that outweighs the stakes involved in this election. The fact that they keep doubling down leads me to believe there are other factors in play here that most of us are not aware of.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Doubt that there are other factors in play other than Bibi wishes for this to continue as it’s his stay out of jail card. Biden is and has always been blind to any Israel wrongdoing and with his current mental faculties will bend to whatever the AIPAC says. Thinking there are other factors deeper is simply a way to cope with a clear atrocity that could be dampened by doing less. That is an easy way to gain voters imo. Hamas is terrible but fueling this is only creating more radicals in an already hostile area

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 months ago

there are third party candidates and there's abstaining

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

They're not going to vote for the president at all right now.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Christ you should watch some interviews with Bassem Youssef or Mehdi Hasan. Absolutely. Even Rashida Tlaib is the only member of the squad (and only Palestinian-American congresswoman) to not endorse Harris.

It's self-defeating but my only hope is it's a bluff...

Edit: sorry should clarify I'm mostly referring to Not Voting as opposed to voting for Trump, but that's still a vote for Trump.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago

I’m leaving president blank on my ballot if there is not a ceasefire or Kamala doesn’t backtrack

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

My thoughts exactly. Given how entrenched the unconditional support for Israel is at all levels of the US, I'm sure Dems are well aware of which position on this issue will net them most votes, especially among the cohorts that actually bother to go out and vote rather than complain online and stay home.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh yes, millions of them, you can tell because they're on lemmy and reddit, and they were hardcore democrats before they decided to #walkaway because of Palestine.

Oh, and also supporting Ukraine and Taiwan is wrong too.

They show up more obviously here because it's a smaller community, but the desperate hope they can kill democratic turnout by trying to make the whole election about Israel is an incredible delusion.

And in b4 some idiot from lemmygrad or ml explaining why I'm wrong and Hitler and that's why nobody will vote Harris in November.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

fighting straw men only tires yourself out

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Letting them win because they work for $.50 is worse.