this post was submitted on 03 Sep 2024
9 points (84.6% liked)

Technology

60585 readers
3705 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 5paceThunder@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

If openai gets to use copyrighted content for free, then so should every one else.

If that happens, no point making anything, since your stuff will get stolen anyway

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm okay with it if they do some kind of open source GPL style license for the copyrighted material, like you can use all the material in the world to train your model, but you can't sell your model for money if it was trained on copyrighted material.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You absolutely CAN sell GPL-licensed applications for money.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To clarify, you can sell GPL licensed programs but any GPL licensed software us inherently worth 0$, because the first person that buys it is now able to give it away for free.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yet, people still pay for it.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

An optional fee is a donation.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Donation, patronage, gift economy, mutual aid, or whatever you want to call it is fine by me. People can pirate a lot of proprietary software as well, yet people still pay.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Piracy has clear downsides with proprietary software in most cases. Lack of updates and support are big ones. Also its considered moral to pay for your software.

[–] axmo@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

These same arguments are equally true for GPL software.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If that happens, no point making anything, since your stuff will get stolen anyway

From a capitalist's point of view, yes, but we need a society that enables people to act from other incentives than making money. And there are plenty of other reasons to make things.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

AI is the capitalist dream. Exploit the labor and creativity of others without paying them a cent.

[–] average_joe@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago

Yes, people turned a blind eye towards OpenAI because they were supposedly an "open" non-profit company working towards the benefit of humanity. They got tons of top talent and investment because of this. The crazy part is that they knew they weren't gonna keep it non-profit based on the internal chat revealed in Elon Musk's lawsuit. They duped the whole world and now just trying to make as much money as possible.

In my opinion, if they were to release these models openly and everyone had equal opportunity to benefit from their research (just like the previous research their current stuff is based on), they could be excused but this for-profit business model is the main problem.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Everyone else does. Name one thing you have to pay for to view on the internet...lmfao