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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think the difference is in how you and I treat bears lol. I treat bears as valuable members of an ecosystem that’re best kept in the wild, though can be glorious to view from a distance. I treat bigots like losers who need to be stopped because they’re going to hurt someone. We mock them, we keep their victims safe, and most importantly we make sure that they don’t get their way. Please don’t treat your local wildlife like that.

I recognize their capacity to change in that by applying sufficient pressure I can make them quit being so on this weirdo bullshit. They may stay a bigot but by the gods we can shut them the fuck up.

And I guess really the crux of my original stance is that if anyone deserves racism it’s a bigot, they’re experiencing hate like they express, but I don’t think anyone deserves racism. I’d rather he face no racism than any, so long as it means there’s no racism being faced by non bigoted people either.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I do agree with pretty much all that you’re saying. Especially the part that ideally, we are all human and human suffering (like experiencing racism) should be minimized.

Maybe it’s my age, but I guess I assume there will always be bigots and bad actors out there, yes we should actively fight to minimize it, but at the same time, after all those minimization efforts, we should still want and expect people to have critical thinking.

I guess even though bad actors aren’t good to have, I view them as almost a necessary evil (similar to how a bear is part of the ecosystem) so people learn about evil and critical thinking. Having said that, we are have waaaaaay more bad actors today than necessary.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

When a bear is eating your face you dab his chin with a napkin is the other guys point.