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Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app? (blog.cryptographyengineering.com)

submitted 3 months ago by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Sure its is. Russia has the keys so they can snoop. Its encrypted though so just the kremlin can read it. Enjoy.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Aha that's why telegram is banned and blocked in Russia

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wasn’t it unblocked again soon after?

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was "blocked" for 2 years, though there was a problem accessing it for only a month or so as Telegram developers implemented ways to avoid the ban. In 2 years the government officials decided that Telegram made enough effort to block extremist materials to remove themselves from the embarrassment. Now they probably think "why didn't we trick Durov to visit us and just arrest him like France did".

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am fairly convinced that it was either theater from the beginning, or some agreement was reached before it was "unblocked". RKN doesn't care about "embarrassment" or collateral damage if they want to do something.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't see any agreement possible just because Russia had literally nothing to offer to Telegram.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Telegram is VERY popular there. What it has to offer are users who would see ads and pay for the subscription.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But the ban was only somewhat effective for like a month, then Telegram found a way to avoid it. In two years no one even felt like it was banned. So what could Russia offer to Telegram? Literally nothing.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago

There was still some convenience added (for example, iirc the main website was blocked).

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Its not and it wasn't banned for very long unofficially.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What was your methodology to determine that?

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Racism.

[–] iagomago@feddit.it 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Durov has been blacklisted in Russia because he refused to cooperate with Putin's government on several occasions.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Yet he is still alive. Misdirection nothing more nothing less.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The comment where everything's made up and the points don't matter

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Telegram CEO Pavel Durov's Arrest Upends Kremlin Military Communications https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/08/26/2233226/telegram-ceo-pavel-durovs-arrest-upends-kremlin-military-communications I'm sure its nice with your head in the sand but it doesn't make any of you right.
The idea that any of them are secure is a pipe dream.