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Yeah I don’t think you can wrap your head around the idea of defending one’s home, family, friends and/or culture. You talk about hiding as if that’s the default if you can’t bribe someone..? To me that just sounds outlandish.
Most want to do something to protect their sisters from rape and their homes from being pillaged to shit. Not run and hide like you seem to view this.
Those who don’t want to fight always have the option to protest and serve an appropriate length of repercussions in prison. And that’s only if you can’t arrange your service to be something non-violent such as homefront logistics or information technology etc. Often you can. And this is if one has ideological or otherwise good reasons not to hold a gun. If one’s just scared, then unfortunately that is not enough of a reason. Everyone is scared when a murdering horde invades. It’s why you do all the things you never wanted to, even your worst enemy, to do. So that others, who can not, may once feel safe again.
Those who run or hide are saying that there is nothing worth protecting and defending, which is fine. Not everyone views their country as a good place. Let the rats hide, I say. If it feels shameful, then maybe they ought to think why that is? At least show some backbone to stand your ground if you refuse to defend your neighbors. Go to the prison. Make a point. That’s honorful at least. Running or hiding? That’s just not humane. That’s leaving others to die.
Anyway, there’s no dimension where wartime order retains the civility and comfortableness of peace time. If rapists and murderers come rampaging in your home, you either fight or you leave your family to their own devices, to be raped and murdered. Remaining peaceful will only result in you watching the horde rape your mother and sisters and children. You are helping them to, in fact.
Once you fight them off, it takes time before all is rebuilt and safe, comfy again. And during that time, when the murderers break in to kill your siblings, mother, father and your children, you don’t get to choose doing nothing. You fight, or you help them by doing nothing. How many will let the rapists get to their business with their family? Not many. You fight. Because you can’t remain peaceful anymore. They already broke in and are rounding up your family, destroying your home. Conscription is just the organized, civil way of going through this process as a community, rather than everyone having to fight alone separately against the horde. It’s not nice, true, but what else is there to do?
It seem like you are running and hiding from what i just said.
Am I? Please enlighten me.
Edit: Ah, the very last paragraph of yours. Right. I was responding to you as a whole, the entire conversation thus far.
If running to start a fire in the rapists car in their own yard helps your family avoid rape, making the rapists run to save their car, then maybe that just might give you time to organize the defense of your own home and other your neighbors.
At least, for now, some of your family and friends are safe.
In the long run, if you conquer the rapists yard as a whole, you can talk trade with him. Maybe they leave you alone if you return their yard.
Maybe they leave you alone or maybe they use this as a claim to mobilize even more forces against you. I guess we will find out soon what happens.
And, what? If there’s a house full of rapists nearby, and the rationale to just roll over and get raped is that if you do not, the rapist will just bring over more of his rapist friends, that’s a fucked up situation that I would assume everyone would agree has to be solved and ended.
The very reason to fight against the rapist is to deter the entire house full of rapists to come over for easy prey. What are you talking about? Just let them do it is what you are suggesting? Even if you do see a car ripe for burning which could save you all from getting constantly raped? Of course you try the car. Doing nothing is just letting them do it and keep doing it, despite there being opportunities to, you know, end the entire rape? You’d want the rape to continue?
I feel stupid having to explain this. You can not be serious, I refuse to accept that. Absurd.
Can you please stay on topic? A rapist is a person with a mental disorder, they get deal with retention and psychological help.
If you fail to see the analogy then I don’t know what to tell you.
If a murdering horde invades your home, your neighbors, and you face near impossible odds to survive, you can’t just give up. You reach for any opportunities to save your home and family.
Invading a country in order to conquer and exploit it, is entirely different from “invading” a part of a country as a peace talks influence. They have stated zero intent in keeping the land, and even a troll like you must agree that there is a difference between burning your neighbors car for fun or to exploit the grounds, your land, under it, versus burning your neighbors car to make the neighbor stop burning everyone’s car, after you having to watch them burn several neighbors’ cars.
And if you can not understand figure of speech, clear nigh 1:1 analogies, then maybe you should re-evaluate whether you are actually competent or developed enough to take part in actual conversations with words.
Edit: Also, just for fun, what would you do if that rapist with a mental disorder refuses to admit to any raping, even while clearly doing it in front of you, and refuses any help on the grounds that they need none? They call it special penetration operation and keep going. You just let them, or do you forcibly detain them and throw into an appropriate facility to heal them and figure out what’s wrong with them being so delusional, aggressive and unhinged? Just a thought.
Duck and dodge. 1/10 attempt.
Your essentially upset that they can disprove your stance so you look for someone trivial to some focus on. Entirely avoiding the issue. Extremely transparent.
Lol the irony