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[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My point isn't that its his fault. My point is that of you're going to be the sort of person to carry a gun, you should be the sort of person to look at this situation and say "If I get out, there is a good chance I could be put in a position where I have to use my gun. Maybe I should fucking avoid that."

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree that gun owners should feel that way.

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Then it sounds like the solution isn't him owning a gun, the solution, save for fixing the societal issues that cause an angry mob of teenagers to do this, is to not get out of the car.

Does that mean he deserved it, or that its his fault? No, but the best answer would to be the bigger person, eat the fact that a dipshit kid threw a water bottle at your car, and go about your life.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So now it’s society? Just blame the fucking teenagers!!!

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Jesus Christ dude what is it with this childish, immature, and broken sense of justice? Why does there need to be some fucking bogeyman to blame. You ever consider that maybe that most shitty things in the world are the result of a large collection of factors. Some accident, some by mistake, others deliberately with malicious intent.

The only way to ever see justice, actual honest to god justice, not your fun house mirror interpretation, is to actually sit down and so the work. I mean honest to god, transparent, consider all the fucking facts equally, look at everyone as an individual, justice. The sort of shit the courts should be, but probably never will.

Did you and me do shit like that as teenagers? No but you and I most likely had adults looking out for us, if not most of your friends did. The fact you have this many kids doing this shit says that there's enough without guidance for mob mentality to take over like that. That, as far as I'm concerned, says something about the state of that community. Which in and of itself says something of the society of which it exists in.

If you've got a giant mob of people who aren't old enough to legally consider adults going around doing shit like that, yeah there's some fucking societal ills. That sort of shit doesn't happen in a vacuum because some kids felt like being assholes, or better yet it does because no one was there to teach them better.

That's what happens when you have a bunch of young people full of piss, vinegar, and hormones and no one to help, and no promise of a future.

Does that justify what they did or make it not wrong? No, its just that trying to police people harder isn't going to prevent this from happening, shooting into the crowd wouldnt have prevented that mob from forming either. Giving those kids the resources they need and a shot at a future before they became an angry mob? That might've actually prevented it.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"TL;DR? Why not just go watch another five second video of a kitten with its head in a toilet roll, or a 140 character description of a meal your friend just stuffed in their mouth. "nom nom". This blog post is not for you." -Marc Scott, Kids can't use computers... and this is why it should worry you

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago

I mean, it’s tempting because you used the word kitten… but I’m not gonna click it.