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Your argument is literally to give up and sit on your hands and just hope and pray that no one notices we're putting a senile individual into the most powerful job position in the world. Oh, and whatabout Reagan.
The cabinet and administration are not there to Weekend at Bernie's the President.
Who is no longer in full control of his faculties. Which is a horrible choice. You're arguing against trying to make that choice something else.
There are, but no matter who anyone says, you'll write them off for one reason or another.
This is not strategy or sound reasoning, it's fecklessness. It's fear of making the wrong choice, so you'd rather walk away from the trolley switch and wash your hands of it. When Biden loses, all the people arguing for him to stay in won't actually have to take any responsibility for their part in Trump being back in office. I'm sure they'll just find a way to blame everyone else- probably for "not being on-board" enough (which is exactly why Biden shouldn't still be running- candidates are supposed to be who people want running).
You don't know me so do not tell me what I think or would say.
What your viable alternative and how will it be achieved?
Harris - if Biden steps aside right now, Harris would be the presumptive replacement without actually needing to wait until the convention.
Buttigieg - already has national recognition and is a proven effective and persuasive speaker- he literally gets sent on Fox News to debate them because he's so cogent and fast that none of their talking heads can beat him, and if Biden exits and it does go to an open, televised, convention, he would be well-positioned to invigorate the base
Whitmer - less name recognition for her policies, she is a strong speaker, and doesn't have the baggage that e.g. Newsom does (although to be fair it's not Democratic baggage, it's anti-California Republican rhetoric)
I would 100% support all 3 with no issue what so ever - they are all superb options. If I could just pick between Biden and those 3, I think I'd take Harris or Whitmer not to slight Buttigieg but I'd rather see a women in the role. I'm not sure who would be best, so let's make the US proud and elect a woman. I'd vote for Newsom but he'd be my 5th choice on this list I'm not his biggest fan but he's ok. That's a great list btw I don't know who else I'd consider.
But how could we realistically get to them? Biden says he is running and how's that going to change? That's the issue. Biden is the candidate so he has my support and I do believe in him. If he steps aside, I'll take what I can get that isn't the felon.
By making the larger conversation about "Biden needs to step aside", rather than being half split between "we need to all align behind Biden". There's still 4 months, and the convention hasn't happened.
And man, how fucking sad would it be (even if it would be very American) for our first woman president to get there by an old white guy dying and she being the default replacement?
Question: Could Biden get elected, then at some point decide he's no longer fit for duty? Would that still make Harris president?
Yes, if the president stops being president, for any reason, the VP becomes president. That's what I'm saying would be incredibly sad.
If he voluntarily stepped down, I don't think it would be that sad. Kind of sad that Americans are not yet ready to vote a woman into presidency, if that's what you mean, but otherwise it looks fine?
That's exactly what I mean.