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[–] Michal@programming.dev 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

We (adults) created a world with knives, guns, automobiles. But if any of these were used by a child for manslaughter would you still blame collective adults? No, parents are held responsible for protecting their children and controlling their access to dangerous tools.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Bad argument. None of those things are easily accessible by, or even targeted at, teenagers. Generative AI is a technology that big tech is specifically building into the social media platforms and devices that young people use every day and there is no regulation or education to protect against the dangers it poses.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Knives and car keys are accessible. I don't know about porn AI tools, i haven't seen any myself. The AI tools i did see have guard rails that make improper use impossible.

[–] mrpants@midwest.social 11 points 4 months ago

Yeah. Society is responsible for the outcomes of its children. It shouldn't personally hurt your feelings but it should motivate your actions.

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 6 points 4 months ago

I'm an adult and am not responsible for anything you described. They were all there even before I was born. In fact, the same may apply to my parents or even grandparents. I'd rather blame a sociopolitical class than any single generation for all those ills.

But to answer your question, yes, I'd blame that entire class for the harm caused by young people using murder tools they introduced. They did it with the full knowledge of its consequences. They valued momentary material gains above the wellbeing of entire generations. They absolutely should be punished for all the mass shootings in schools, because they knew it could happen. Yet they chose the blood money. Similarly, if an entire city is under a drugs epidemic (like the current opioid crisis), wouldn't you want to hunt down the producers and suppliers, instead of the users?

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

I mean I would and do in fact literally blame societal and familial problems when kids are brutal, unkind, or hurt others, and similarly blame societal and familial problems for when kids are not protected from brutal, unkind, and hurtful things.

Why are you saying the things you're saying like a gotcha? Do you not feel that society has a significant impact on the behavior of youth?