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Jesus, that is a gross way to inject advertising into turn-by-turn navigation.

Edit/update from 9to5google so this post does not spread what is apparently inaccurate information: https://9to5google.com/2024/07/08/google-maps-pop-up-quick-detour-ad/

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Gmaps has been actual hot trash for way the hell too long now.

GraphHopper, OSRM, and Valhalla all blow Google's shitty routing algorithm out of the water.

OSMAnd really the only mobile app competitor worthy of putting gmaps out of its misery. The only problem is it still uses a renderer from the stone age and has lackluster address data despite the fact that said data is available for free online from several open source mapping projects (there's some nice github scripts that can import ir for you).

Garmin forgot to invest in mobile technology. Sygic went to crap. Waze is just Gmaps+. Maps.me died even harder than Sygic.

It's 2024 and yet some of the best navigation tech I've seen is from 15+ year old devices.

Edit: Also Android Auto can go to hell.

[–] hogmomma@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've been using Gmaps since forever and can say I've never had any problem with it. I mean, it took me to the business office instead of the main entrance to a theme park once, but I can hardly fault it for that. Calling it actual hot trash just seems so out of nowhere to me. It's a fine product that I've had great experience with.

[–] zippythezigzag@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Give it time. This shit gets worse every year.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. It was great for me on vacation. Searching for nearby restaurants or tourist attractions worked well.

[–] hogmomma@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

It's great on road trips! About a decade ago, my wife and I loaded up the car and just sorta started heading south. We were on the road for about four weeks using nothing but Yelp and Gmaps. It was great!

[–] manmachine@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The old maps.me is reborn and active as Organic Maps now.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

+1 for Organic Maps though I feel it's lacking in some basic features.

Still renders much better and smoother than OSMAnd.

[–] manmachine@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Yeah. OsmAnd (at least for me) suffers from the rather typical opensource thing that it can do lots of things and can be configured in a myriad of specific ways, and to use it you have to dive into it to configure them; Organic Maps, on the other hand, does less, but much slicker and simpler.

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Any links for the OS data street-number scripts?

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

This is an excellent resource!

2D and 3D map render took a hit, which may be why it is not added to the mainline maps.

I'll keep the street number map deactivated, and enable when needed.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nothing beats Google Maps because Google Maps is the only app that can reliably navigate you using public transport, walking and cycling all over the world.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Show me an app which will allow me to travel between Riga and Sigulda as well as Google Maps does.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Since I have no idea what routes there are available, I can't possibly do that. I have no idea why you would even expect me to be able to regardless of the existence of Google Maps.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Since I have no idea what routes there are available, I can’t possibly do that

But that's the point of Google Maps! You don't have to know any routes. You just pick a start point and the end point and it will guide anywhere in the world (well, except for North Korea). And it even works across borders! I can ask it to guide me from my home in London to Louvre in Paris and it will tell me how to get there, how to buy tickets for all transport modes, etc.

I have no idea why you would even expect me to be able to

I understand that you live in the US and the only time you left your country was in your wildest dreams. But guess what - people living outside of the US usually travel abroad. And it is extremely helpful to find a way to get from the outskirts of Barcelona to Mont Serrat while having your breakfast at your hotel.

As you can see, there's no replacement for Google Maps. Some apps can do car navigation, some apps have limited transport navigation inside specific cities, but none do everything at once and as good as Google Maps.

P.S. Oh, and Google Maps have live GPS tracking of public transport for some transport networks in specific cities.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm a dual citizen with the UK, I have another option for German citizenship, and have left the U.S. many, many times. What a silly thing to assume.

Let me guess- next you're going to say "Canada doesn't count" without asking me which countries I've been to.

That doesn't mean I know the most efficient route between two cities in some country I haven't been to any more than you do. I'm guessing you can't tell me the most efficient route between Bloomington and Martinsville without any sort of map.

You are trusting that Google Maps will always give you the most efficient route. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Look, mate, cool story and all, but once again - tell me which app can give me a route between Riga and Sigulda using public transport?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And again, I don't know. That doesn't mean you can assume Google Maps has the best route, especially now that they're intentionally diverting people.

I notice you haven't said anything else about your lie that I never leave my country, by the way. Anything you wanted to add there?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So, your argument is you don't know. Basically - no argument. Next time keep quiet, people will think you're smart.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

My "argument" was initially a joke, but then you took it seriously, so it just became me saying that you can't know for certain that your claim about Google Maps giving the most efficient route is true.

Also, I'm not smart, so I don't know why I'd want people to think I am. I'm stupid, not a liar.

Speaking of lies, you still haven't said anything about your lie that I've never left my country.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Get back to the topic of the discussion or keep quiet.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you a mod? Because you're not on the list in the sidebar. You're also not on the list of admins on the front page.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What? Lol. Arguing skills lvl 80!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure why it wasn't clear, but I was telling you I have no reason to do what you're telling me to do. Nor will I.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Have fun trying to order people around. See how that works out for you.

And a big sieg heil to you.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not the one trying to order people around.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree. It is quite sad that you think you can order people around.

Not as sad as your bigotry against trans people, but still sad.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're getting sadder by the minute.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And yet I've never said anything bigoted like suggesting that trans women aren't women.

And of course, it's interesting that you call me a troll when you say things like:

Fascism is a socialist movement. Always was.

https://lemmy.world/comment/10970763

Or:

Plastic is better for the environment than everything else.

https://lemmy.world/comment/10956668

Or what about:

Vegans should stop existing. The reasoning is simple: humans are part of nature and rely on other animals one way or another. But this reliance is always non consented. Thus vegan existence is animal abuse.

https://lemmy.world/comment/10946352

All within the past week, including your transphobic comment.

Of course, these are comments of yours which have not been deleted.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your arguing skills are through the roof!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And then there's all the communities you, the non-troll, have been banned from:

Hostility, misinformation, bigotry... I don't think I'm the one who has an arguing and trolling issue. I wonder how long it will take you to be banned from this community?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No, please, you go on. You're the one who's likely to get banned from this community any time now because of whatever bigoted or hostile thing you happen to say to someone.

It wouldn't even be the first time you were banned from here:

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure. You seem to be the expert on these matters: Are trans women women? Are Jews human?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You didn’t answer my questions.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Please continue.

[–] MintyAnt@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is there an alternative to android auto?

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Practically speaking, a dedicated head unit that runs its own software or a head unit that simply mirrors the output from a phone.

Both exist but the former has become rare in terms of quality UI and Navigation