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[–] KamikazeRusher@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was talking to a Tesla owner about this and they argued that if the window is electric then there’s no difference making the door electric. They couldn’t understand that the door itself can be operated independently of the rest of the vehicle.

Making windows electric causes a safety tradeoff. You get ease of operation while losing the ability to open the window in the event of an accident (where power cannot be supplied). However you can still unlock and open the door manually as an alternative escape option. This also applies in non-accident scenarios (dead battery).

Making doors electric is nothing more than a safety risk. From the inside you might have access to a manual release latch, but some doors require you to unscrew things first. Any emergency situation where you need to exit as soon as possible and the power is lost almost guarantees that you’ll be unable to safely escape.

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Nothing about it is hidden, obfuscated, or even in a weird spot. It's literally right on the fucking door handle. There's a lot of reasons to hate elon, and there's a lot of reasons to hate tesla. Let's stick to the legitimate ones instead of making shit up, it just weakens the arguments for the actual issues

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

You need to fully edit your comment and remove the part defending this nonsense.

[–] KamikazeRusher@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Ok. So that’s the Model 3.

How about the Model Y?

Ok. Not all Model Ys have rear manual releases. I’ll assume the best and believe that only certain countries have this design.

How about the Model X?

So it’s behind the speaker grille. Uncertain if you need a screwdriver, but I’ll assume not. However it is hidden away from sight.

How about the Model S?

Oh, it’s under the carpet.

So yeah, turns out, I’m not making shit up, and there is indeed empirical evidence for it.

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You know what that's entirely fair, looks like the M3 is the only not braindead design one then. I wouldn't touch anything other than an M3 then personally (if i was going to use a tesla at all)

[–] KamikazeRusher@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Cybertruck also has manual releases but the rear doors hold it in the map pocket. Better but still not in a sensible place when someone is panicking.

[–] whs@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

OP posted a photo of the front door release and you posted the rear door release which should be intentionally hidden. The front door release in all models are as OP posted.

The latest Model 3 also hides the rear door release. Often you'll have guests sit in the rear and they're used to pulling something to open the door. So they pull the manual release and damage the frameless window.