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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 55 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Maybe at some point the Americans will get scared that the Chinese are actually making strides ahead of them in electrification and decarbonization to actually get unstuck from their idiotic culture war over fossil fuels.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

America will stop trying to sell oil when it runs out of oil and not one second before, no matter the actual cost.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago

and will lash out for being behind for as long as they still have guns

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, Amerikans would sooner nuke themselves than even consider uncoupling themselves from fossil fuel. All Amerikans care about is "profit uber alles"; they'd rather choke to death on smog and fracking run-off than ever admit Chinese STEM is beating theirs by every conceivable metric.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] librejoe@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Eh take news from China with a Giga size grain of salt.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 months ago

I don't know about this particular piece of news, but the insane expansion of HSR for example is no fake news.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As opposed to news from the united states, which is certified good and true and democratic

[–] librejoe@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago

I agree with you.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It will take a new space race for that to happen.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The space race is on. That’s why Starship has been launching so much. Someone at the FAA must have finally realized that if SpaceX doesn’t go ahead at full SpaceX speed, we’re gonna see China take over space.

They’ve got a space station and a rover on the moon. China will easily overtake us in space, has already in a few places.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

and africa with that whole silk road thing

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

True. China is making rapid gains in territory and influence on Earth and Luna, and soon plans to expand its operations into the Belt.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And by "take over" you mean uselessly posture and dick waggle and colonialize in brand new space accords breaking ways.

This is not something anyone is winning.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh yes, this is a competition, and someone is going to win it.

There are lots of resources out there. Far more than here. Most of “the world” is out there. This is happening whether we like it or not.

And all the “dick waggling” is steps on the path to it happening. Funny flesh images, homoerotic shaming, whatever this dick talk is about whenever space comes up, none of it changes the serious nature of what’s going on in space.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago

Lmao it would be more economical to colonize the ocean floor than space. Extracting resources from space isn't happening any time soon, no amount of musks copium will fix that.

The "serious nature" of what's happening in space is an accelerating geopolitical posturing. Nothing any country is doing right now are the things they'd do if they seriously intended to settle space.

If the intent of course was to show off military might, ruin the the space treaty for colonialization and imperialism, and attempt brinksmamship, well they are coincidentally working down the checklist!

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fossil fuels aren’t just a culture war. Energy is really important for people, including poor people.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago

Poor people also care about not dying from the effects of climate change.

Poor people don't care about the megaprofits of the oil, gas, and automotive industries.