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Mehdi’s Memo on the results of our new poll on Gaza and Iran

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That was what we said in 2020 and here we are. We went backwards from Obama. Either he does the right thing or there have to be consequences.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca -3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, but the consequences is a second Trump administration if you don't vote for a Democratic candidate for president, and two to four more years of legislative gridlock if the Republicans aren't reduced to powerless rump.

Do you want a second Trump administration? Think really hard about that, because the last one vacillated between "Berlusconi-level incompetency" and "Mussolini-level malice".

The stakes really are to high to "try to teach Biden and the Democrats a lesson", and it's not like corporate Democrats really care, because they'd rather lose to a Republican than get primaried by a progressive and stop the gravy train forever, plus they have this weird idea that if they're "civil" they won't find themselves lynched during the American Krystallnacht.

The problem with not primaring out corporate Democrats is that American voters...didn't do it. Not that it didn't work as a strategy, because replacing corporate Republicans with fascist nutjobs is working out just fine. Maybe progressives, or at least progressive Millenials and Gen-Xers, really are too lazy to affect real change?

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm sure allowing a manchild narcissist authoritarian insurrectionist to appoint more judges and sell more state secrets will teach Biden and the Dems a big lesson. 1/3 of SCOTUS were installed by an insurrectionist and about 1/2 of the House and Senate are backing an insurrectionist.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's pretty grim. But political parties don't listen to anything but votes and power. They aren't benevolent organizations. If they won't listen to the people who voted for them last time, then voting for them this time just tells them they can ignore you.

[–] OhHiMarx@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago

I agree, the Democrats can do literally anything (up to and including supporting genocide) so long as they're marginally less bad than Republicans and we should support them for this reason. This strategy has no foreseeable consequences and can only make things better in the long run.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

Sounds like Democracy is working as expected? The people want the death of American democracy, you should probably ask yourself why you are so keen on supporting it.