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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's the only choice because he was shoved down Dem throats though. Great, he accomplished some things. Quite frankly any empty suit could have done that with the clout of the rest of the party. A non-geriatric progressive could have potentially done much more, but the establishment won't run anyone like that. Eventually the fragmentation will grow too great and start working against itself (we may already be there).

When Biden supported the rail corporations and waffled on student loans (pre-SC scumbaggery), it was apparent that he's just a shill. The latter went against a campaign promise, but memories are short.

Edit: also "helping defeat Russia" is arguably not a thing. They are not the threat to the US that they used to be. Sure, it's great to support Ukraine. But China is the only real military threat to the US, and Biden has been status quo there. I get that the US is world police, but let's not treat the Military Industrial Complex as a plus.

[–] ondoyant@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

just a heads up, you should look into that rail thing again. the unions ended up getting alot of what they wanted because Biden's admin did actually follow through with negotiations. definitely not cool, but also not the unambiguous support of corporations you seem to have interpreted it as. IBEW statement. there are people who are still unhappy, because capitalism sucks and they should be unhappy, but lots of railworkers got significantly improved working conditions out of it.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

It is good that the outcome came out better than it initially looked. But I have a really hard time understanding why a Democratic president couldn't overtly and publicly support a union in the first place. Full stop.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden didn't even need a bill to forgive student debt.

He did it unilaterally in the case of people who were defrauded. The whole song and dance with his 'plan' was to give him plausible deniability so his corporate backers wouldn't lose their golden goose.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

100% agree. And it's something that should be apparent to voters. If it isn't (and I think it isn't)... damn, we are in a bad spot.