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Everywhere I look there are people advocating for defederation from this and that! Do you even understand what you're suggesting? Do you get what's the point of decentralized social media and activity pub?

This is supposed to be free and accessible for everyone. We all have brains and can decide who to interact with.

If meta or any other company manages to create a better product it's just natural that people tend to use it. I won't use it, you may not use it and it's totally fine! It's about having options. Also as Mastodon's CEO pointed out there's no privacy concern, everything stays on your instance.

Edit: after reading and responding to many comments, I should point out that I'm not against defederation in general. It's a great feature if used properly. Problem is General Instances with open sign-ups and tens of thousands of users making decisions on par of users and deciding what they can and can not see.

If you have a niche or small community with shared and agreed upon values, defederating can be great. But I believe individual users are intelligent enough to choose.

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[–] TheBenCrazy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Copying this from another comment I made. Defederating would pretty much cut off a lot of potential new users that want to see posts on Threads while also not wanting to have a Meta account and all the issues that come with it. People here need to realize that they are in an echo chamber. Mastodon and Lemmy needs users and content. Cutting a big portion of that would kill it in the long run. There would be nothing to "extinguish" in the first place in their complaints of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Defederating would pretty much cut off a lot of potential new users that want to see posts on Threads while also not wanting to have a Meta account and all the issues that come with it.

Kinda the point, no? Kill Threads in the cradle by denying it access to the fediverse.

[–] problematicconsumer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly, I have a lot of normie friends that use threads, I don't want to use it but would love to interact with them. Best of both worlds

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you interact with them, you’re “using” threads

[–] problematicconsumer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I would have phrased it as "supporting" Threads. If you don't defederate, Threads will take over your instance. Either directly through the sheer amount of posts, or indirectly by colluding with your instance admins. Or both. It's how they operate. And then the ads and data harvesting and walled gardens will come.