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Apple Is Trying to Kill the Open Internet!

https://youtu.be/up-zUEFNMww

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wat? Is this just about pwas? Firefox does that too. Rage baiting hard here.

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

News doesn't become rage bait just because it is against your beloved Apple. The video does discuss very relevant points about how abusive this move from Apple is. In fact, this news has been discussed seriously for two weeks now.

Firefox does that too

Firefox is just a browser and has nothing to do with PWAs that require OS support. This is about PWAs as an alternative to app side loading, which Apple doesn't allow. You're needlessly misconstruing the issue.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Firefox is just a browser and has nothing to do with PWAs that require OS support.

It does. PWAs are browser installed apps. On Android, they show up as independent icons with the Firefox logo on it:

Lemmy icon as a Firefox PWA

Those behave like independent apps, they have their own icon, their own entry in the app switcher, they're full screen with no browser UI elements. Just a full screen web page. This has been possible for a long time on iOS too with Safari.

It has nothing to do with sideloading. PWAs were a way to make web apps feel as close as possible to real apps as possible. Things like https://vger.app feels almost like native apps.

Apple's decided they'd rather get rid of it than let third party browsers be able to do that, as they can't control how much those apps can do. Chrome can just make WASM really good and make native apps less necessary, and make the AppStore tax more avoidable, and they won't let that happen.

And Firefox does indeed also kinda suck in the PWA department, and have kind of soft-abandonned them, and they're buggy. On Chrome, a good PWA can feel as good as native.