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Please give me one example of how sublinks is better than lemmy currently for use.
(I don't understand why new software instead of improving lemmy.)
It's always good to have alternatives. Healthy competition can make them grow better too.
how?
One way would be by implementing features the Lemmy devs have no interest in such as better interoperability with other fediverse platforms. If any added feature turns out to be well received and in demand, it would pressure the others to implement similar.
you are aware that what you linked is up to mastodon to implement? nothing to do with Lemmy.
Not really, Kbin (which also similar to core function as Lemmy) has better interoperability with Mastodon.
Nutomic, Lemmy dev, reject that idea. Quoted from himself: "Like you said, Kbin already supports this. No need to reimplement it in Lemmy, definitely wouldnt be worth all the effort."
And akkoma works perfectly with Lemmy where mastodon doesnt even understand groups
i've never looked into using my akkoma to interact with lemmy, but i quite like using mastodon.
Akkoma support activitypub groups. Properly.
i don't get what you mean: i quite like having every comment robbed of context and fed to me reverse-chronologically, only to reveal context and display chronologically when clicked
i understand some people might find it jarring, but what do you mean by "properly"?
Akkoma only shows the topic OP in your timeline, when you click you can see all comments. While mastodon boosts every reply flooding your timeline.
Akkoma suports activitypub articles, So you can actually read lemmy posts without leaving akkoma. While Mastodon only shows the article title and link, you are obliged to leave mastodon to read it.
yea, i prefer the mastodon method.
seriously? do you follow any large group in mastodon? do you prefer your timeline flooded with a single group discussion?
seriously.
I am subscribed to the biggest communities on Lemmy.world. I keep Lemmy communities in a list, and hide them from my main timeline.
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Here on Lemmy you prefer the
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timeline?I mean, mastodon doesn't have a method for groups. It just happens to show federated ActivityPub
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typewhen i want to find interesting conversations, i interact through mastodon. when i want to space out and scroll memes i open jerboa.
i don't care much for any of the interfaces on lemmy except the search function, which, unlike mastodon, can search comment text without hashtags.
Which comment in the issue thread leads you to believe that?
The developer's closing comment is that it wouldn't be worth it to implement that feature in Lemmy.
Different technologies. Rust is a more niche language, which is sometimes used to explain why there aren't that many contributors to Lemmy
Sure, but not one of those is a reason to use it.
There is probably no reason now, but hopefully in the near future Sublinks will reach feature parity with Lemmy, and could even surpass it. Technological stack can have a huge impact on the development speed of a project.
In other words, let's wait and see
Thank you. That was very clear. I look forward to seeing the results of the developments.
Exactly, we already had 13 contributors working on it before it was announced.
Rust may be niche now, although it's current momentum is huge, especially in the FOSS space.
That's like saying "Watch my new TV show, it's better than the other shows because our scripts are printed on an Epson printer!"
Not really because these are open source projects. The one that is easier to develop for will likely get more features which leads to more users.
That being said, Java was a questionable choice IMO.
Not necessarily. It might get more developers at first when people think it's going to be the Next Big Thing (TM), but if nobody uses it, the devs might not feel their effort is worth it and might move on.
Why wouldn't people use it, despite it having "more features"? Because social media is mostly driven by network effects. People go where other people go. All the people there create content which gives people a reason to go there. In the distant past, Facebook only grew because it was so easy to move from MySpace. And, it was easy to move from Friendster to MySpace, and so-on back to the origins of social media. Since then, the walls of the walled gardens have become much higher. Every social media company actively makes it difficult to move to other platforms because they want to keep any users they have. You might hate Facebook, but you like Aunt Jane, and she's only on Facebook, so you stay on Facebook.
Sometimes improving an existing software is not always possible. One example is when the lead devs do not accept the proposed features. Another scenario is when a dev team is too onerous to work with. I am not involved in this project so I do not know the background here myself so I can only make a few educated guesses.