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I don't have much of a problem either way as I don't think I'll be engaging in political discussion on this website past this post but it seems like any sort of non-left wing opinions or posts are immediately trashed on here. That's fine. There's clearly a more liberal audience here and that's okay. I just don't want Lemmy to become a echo chamber for any side and it seems to be that way when it comes to politics already.

Mostly making this post just to drum up discussion as I'm new here.

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[–] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We all need less stupid, bigoted, selfish, aggressive, and violence-supporting people in our lives.

[–] the_nightman@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don’t personally align with either political party but the fact that you didn’t see the irony in this before posting it is really something spectacular.

[–] Velociraptor@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Hi there. I'm trans. It wasn't up to me. I didn't choose to be. Life would be way easier if I wasn't. I'm dealing with it as best I can so I can live my life. An entire political party is currently putting money and energy behind denying me healthcare. I'm an adult. I'm at a point where I can't make hormones on my own but that doesn't matter to them. The dysphoria I was experiencing prior to transitioning was straight up not compatible with continuing to live. You don't even have to take my word for it - several doctors at different agencies agreed enough to write letters for me to start care. It is disingenuous to look at how conservatives are trying to, at best, make me very sick on a daily basis, or are, at worst, trying to put me in the ground and say "yeah, this is just as bad as the left's typical talking points."

If I were a cis person who couldn't synthesize my own hormones for whatever reason, there would be nothing stopping me from getting this exact. Same. Treatment. These things don't happen by accident. They happen because the hate is there to open the door and a lot of self-proclaimed "good" folks are real happy to watch it go down.

How do you reconcile with such an insanely disjointed false equivalency? Honest question.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

both sides r bad mkay?

No, One side is fucking evil, and would happily exterminate the amorphous "other" if they could get away with it. How does if feel to know that you and the KKK vote for the same things and people btw?

We don't tolerate intolerance. If that sounds ludicrous to you, you should search for "the paradox of tolerance".

Coming from a former hardcore conservative who listened to that snake Rush Limbaugh and his ilk every single day for hours for the better part of a decade, then moved to Los Angeles and learned quickly that everything he had been told was a fucking lie... Put away the dog whistles. You aren't fooling anyone.

[–] ConsciousCode@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Genocide is evil? Next you'll tell me the nazis were the baddies!

[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is there a term for this 'both sides'ing? Politely declaring "both sides are equally bad" despite the glaring disparity?

[–] Rentlar@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

False equivalency is the term I'd use to describe it.

[–] dr_catman@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Please. Spare us. “I don’t support either political party but liberals are just as bad” is a very roundabout way of saying that you’re a Republican.

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I don't care if you like either political party. Buy if you're indifferent to fascists, then opposing fascists could look fascistic.