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Don't dismiss the PUA too quickly. There is a lot of BS in the PUA scene, but also some basic considerations that men don't get taught in any other way.
The traditional view used to be: men watch porn, women read romance.
That's not a constructive way to get anywhere, and arguably has been making things worse with the wider availability of more violent and objectifying porn.
Under a general veneer of "getting laid", the PUA also teach stuff like:
May not sound like much, but it's still a step above the "take, use, leave" that gets taught otherwise.