takeda

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[–] takeda@lemm.ee 6 points 10 hours ago

I'm certain this wouldn't be posted if the emotion was just neutral.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

It does both, as those entities are punished they will look for alternatives or reduce consumption.

That's why with trade wars everyone loses, especially little people like you and me.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

LOL, I wish I had those "we buy junk cars" business cards.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago

They do whatever works for Chinese interests.

TikTok isn't being banned, it was asked to be majority owned by an American company so it can't be influenced by China.

A normal business would prefer to get some money than no money.

The fact that they refuse to do it is clear that its value only exists if it is controlled by Chinese government.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You won't find me supporting Twitter or Meta, and I won't deny that their owners do seem to be influenced by foreign governments (directly or indirectly), but TikTok is clearly information Domain Warfare and it would be hell of a stupid to continue allowing it if they are still controlled by Chinese government. This is why that sale is for.

https://youtu.be/9JQLaf4QaOs?t=6m51s

If TikTok wasn't a weapon, wouldn't it make more sense to sell it and get something than not selling it and have nothing?

The current behavior only makes sense if the real value was being China's propaganda piece. A normal business would just go after money.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 4 points 23 hours ago

You can't even create TikTok account without installing their app on your phone first. I initially tried and purposefully did not want to have me phone mined, and was unable to register.

But actually the data mining is not the biggest issue even. The biggest issue is that a foreign government (especially since China doesn't work like other Western countries and directly controls what their companies are doing) has influence over 17 million Americans.

https://youtu.be/pB7WzqUq4Nk

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 2 points 23 hours ago

This man is no brainier, China clearly acts as an adversary in almost any other category. It regularly hacks our infrastructure, helps Russia with Ukrainian invasion, it wants to invade Taiwan, or ally.

OP was saying that Democrats should go with this ruling to go after Twitter and Meta. I agree, but no way in hell any legislature would happen in those 3 days, especially when House and Senate have majority of Republicans and Twitter and Meta right now appears to be on Republican side.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

or at least heavily regulated

That's the core reason for requirement to sell it. Right now there's no way to regulate it. It is an app that influences 17 million Americans controlled by a country that right now regularly conducted cyber attacks on our infrastructure. What could go wrong?

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

Twitter still falls under US law, TikTok doesn't and there's no way to make it, that's the problem.

China is actively helping Russia in Ukraine, it is using backdoors in their technology to hack our infrastructure, was caught with spying, actively prepares to invade Taiwan which of happens will set up our technology backwards as we won't be able to produce latest chips, and you're questioning why US is blocking an app that already has direct influence over 17 million Americans?

China isn't our friend, it doesn't do what a friendly nation would normally do.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Both sides can be bad, with TikTok the problem is that it is controlled by an adversary, a nation that doesn't have good relationship with the US and wants it to collapse.

Frankly if I had power I would go after Twitter and Meta as well.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is crystal clear now, but it was less clear before.

I started saying that social media finally figured out how to monetize the platform and it's customers aren't people, aren't even companies, the customers are now billionaires and foreign governments.

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