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[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

isn't your point that you think by abstaining from consuming meat, meat production will be impacted? the production grows incessantly. it's obvious that meat producers do not care whether you buy meat.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

your original point was that you bear no responsibility for the deaths of animals you consume

right. and this speaks directly to that.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

even one death that was prevented has value.

but that has never worked, has it?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=%7EOWID_WRL

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

"Oh well, people died before laws were introduced, may as well go on a killing spree"

this is a strawman. my argument is more like "you may object to killing animals for food, but your method is not an effective way to stop it"

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if they were subject to the whims of irrational actors, I might worry more.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I mean what I say.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

cows were killed before anybody bought meat. there is no reason to believe that will stop even if you stop buying it.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

to an extent you're right, but I understand the laws of physics. markets are not dictated by anything like the laws of physics.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

they don't know the future. they hope their research is correct.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

it was still hope. they couldn't possibly know the future.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

Producers would not produce meat if nobody bought it

iphones were produced before anyone bought one. producers can't know whether a product will sell in the future.

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