cybersin

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[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

They will be fined and nothing will change. Bonus points if the final fine paid is lower than their $2.5 billion settlement offer.

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

I'm sorry, but there is no situation where it is permissible to stand idle as someone suffers an untimely and preventable death.

Even soldiers at war, captured in foreign territory without visas, are entitled to lifesaving care.

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago (4 children)

OK. So by that logic, let's say you are touring Europe and have a heart attack. The paramedics are in the area and available, but refuse to take you to the hospital. You are left to die on the street.

You think you deserve such foul treatment?

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 27 points 3 months ago (6 children)

When a government is informed that people are dying within its waters, and the gov has the capability to respond but deliberately chooses not to because the victims are "african", you think that the government bears no responsibity for their deaths?

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 33 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Is it really so different though? The outcome of both situations is the same. Migrants are dying, through direct action and deliberate inaction.

Mediterranean nations have the opportunity to protect lives, but instead they choose kill / let migrants die.

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 40 points 3 months ago (11 children)

You are defending willful negligence that leads to the deaths of migrants.

Up to 1 in 13 migrants die in the Mediterranean. Italy as well as Greece have been allowing migrants to die as a part of deterrence-based migration policy. Rescuing the passengers of capsized migrant vessels has been criminalized. There are plenty of articles that confirm these facts. Here is one example.

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you trying to equate the ideology of a political regime with a minority population of South Africans?

South Africa had no right to exist as an apartheid state, and Israel has no right to exist as an apartheid state.

After apartheid ended and living conditions improved, black South Africans didn't go and slaughter every white South African as retribution, so when Israel says freed Palestinians would slaughter all Israelites, why should we believe them?

If the occupation ended today and Palestinians were allowed to live fairly and given ample resources to rebuild, what reason would they have to seek further conflict? If treated fairly, why would Palestinians act any differently than the South Africans freed from apartheid? This conflict is ultimately the direct result of unfair treatment after all.

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

Sure, but "effectiveness" is usually not a binary and is often difficult to measure. Small, but persistent changes should still add up. Eventually.

So long as people recognize that these things are in fact quite toothless, I'm not sure they are entirely detrimental. There's no reason this couldn't be used as a starting point for more effective action, now that signatories are in greater contact with the campaign.

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

I don't know.

I still think there's at least some value, even if the only thing it accomplishes is getting people to talk about it. Many people have never even heard of The Internet Archive.

Either way, there isn't really a reason not to.

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 31 points 3 months ago (17 children)

Sure, but it is still better than doing nothing.

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I expected a bit more competency from pew research, but it seems that this quiz misses the mark quite badly.

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