Kagu

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[–] Kagu@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What your original comment suggested was not that you acknowledged the human capacity for violence, which nobody can deny and I am not debating.

The comment implied - and this is an assumption so ingrained in our western society that nobody could blame you for it - that the only thing separating humans from violent, animalistic, or selfish impulses is societal structure and policing.

our institutions are our attempt to crawl out of the jungle

That just isn't demonstrable, as much as it may feel intuitive. It's a Hobbian philosophy.

I'm not here to pretend I can convince you otherwise in one comment thread, took me a long time to change my mind on that and I'm not anthropological authority. That's why I recommend the book, it's quite eye-opening. At least it was for me.

[–] Kagu@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I encourage you to read Humankind by Rutger Bregman. The notion that humans are inherently animalistic, greedy, and violent has not been supported by the bulk of anthropological study throughout modern history, and his book does a good job of breaking down why there's such a divide between the perception of so-called "human nature" and the anthropological and sociological evidence.

TLDR: humans aren't inherently greedy, we respond to our systems and environment more than anything.

[–] Kagu@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"The answer is not to defund the police! It's to fund them! Fund them!!" - Joe Biden

And then he proceeded to give them money to buy more tear gas canisters and armored vehicles and liberals are surprise Pikachu face-ing when statistics like this come out.

In 100 years (if the earth lasts that long) I hope people look back at police abolition the way we look back at the abolition of slavery: as an obvious step towards a more equitable society.

[–] Kagu@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In fact, the Courts ruled they don't actually have to protect you at all! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

EDIT: District Court