Ganbat

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[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

Yep, at that point they're just fishing for more which, hey, why wouldn't they.

It's a give and take for sure, requiring a real phone number makes it harder for automated spam bots to use the service, but at the same time, it puts the weight of true privacy on the shoulders and wallets of the users, and in a lesser way, incentives the use of less than reputable services, should a user want to truly keep their activities private.

And yeah, there's an argument to be made for keeping crime at bay, but that also comes with risks itself. If there was some way to keep truly egregious use at bay while not risking a $10,000 fine on someone for downloading an episode of Ms. Marvel, I think that would be great.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Says right there in the subpoena "You are required to provide all information tied to the following phone numbers." This means that the phone number requirement has already created a leak of private information in this instance, Signal simply couldn't add more to it.

Additionally, that was posted in 2021. Since then, Signal has introduced usernames to "keep your phone number private." Good for your average Joe Blow, but should another subpoena be submitted, now stating "You are required to provide all information tied to the following usernames," this time they will have something to give, being the user's phone number, which can then be used to tie any use of Signal they already have proof of back to the individual.

Yeah, it's great that they don't log what you send, but that doesn't help if they get proof in any other way. The fact is, because of the phone number requirement, anything you ever send on Signal can easily be tied back to you should it get out, and that subpoena alone is proof that it does.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (11 children)

It's bad for privacy no matter how you sell it. Unless you have a good amount of disposable income to buy up burner numbers all the time, a phone number tends to be incredibly identifying. So if a government agency comes along saying "Hey, we know this account sent this message and you have to give us everything you have about this account," for the average person, it doesn't end up being that different than having given them your full id.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

The second I went to sign up and learned a phone number was absolutely required, I knew that their privacy was pure bullshit. That little declaration at the end here is an absolute slap to the face.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

ITT: Wicked coping with some terrifyingly invasive practices from people none of us know. Seriously, some of this stuff is super concerning.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Scroll down and listen to the recording for Never Gonna Give You Up. Someone knows where that box is.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it's kinda been all over the place, but that's where the show ended up going. What I'm thinking of, though, was also in Fallout 4. I've been thinking on it, and I remember now that what I'm thinking of is that it's implied that the AI from the Railroad quests fed fake info about incoming missiles to force America to fire. I still don't remember any specifics, though, and I could be misremembering. It's been a good few years after all, lol.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are actual science fiction stories built on the premise that AI reporting on the start of Nuclear War resulted in actual kickoff of the apocalypse, and we're at that corner now.

IIRC, this was the running theory in Fallout until the show.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Wonder if 3.0 will finally fix alpha levels.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Oh, this would be funny if people en masse were smart enough to understand the problems with generative ai. But, because there are people out there like that one dude threatening to sue Mutahar (quoted as saying "ChatGPT understands the law"), this has to be a problem.

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