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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

China is becoming an increasingly unreliable trade partner. Preventing them from completely taking over a segment is prudent.

[–] ZetaLightning94@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

With how china keeps implanting everything with spyware, I agree to keep them away from the heavy tech incorporated cars. Really wish we could transition away from using chinese shit

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh? More spyware than GM selling your data to your insurance company? More spyware than all of the stuff your smartphone collects?

It's absolutely a bad faith argument to say we can't have Chinese cars because they conduct industry standard data scraping.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The whataboutism doesn’t help. It’s a wrong practice regardless of nationality. But since the house and senate is bought by the corporations, at the very least ban those who you can.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

It's not a whataboutism when that's the other choice. This isn't out of left field. I can buy Chinese data scraping, Japanese data scraping, Korean data scraping, German data scraping, or American data scraping.

Right now Germany actually wins that contest because GDPR just might have an impact.

A whataboutism would be me talking about American labor practices in farming. Not great, but also not relevant.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then China shouldn’t subsidize its manufacturers’ exports while increasing the burden for foreign companies to compete internally. If anyone thinks China cornering the global EV market is a good long term plan, they are naive.

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The US subsidizes american car companies too. Pot calling the kettle and all.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We subsidize exports? Show me.

[–] pearable@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Where does that say anything about exports? The article is talking about US factories and this coincides with the federal government implementing stricter fuel standards on these same manufacturers. This money is to help them ease into developing brand new platforms after implementing stricter standards.

Furthermore, that $15B is a drop in the bucket for what China is subsidizing. That equates to about a single quarters worth of subsidies for a company like BYD in order to sell their cars for $10k-$15k out the door.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

BYD doesn't sell their cars abroad for $10-$15k.

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Make them in Mexico. Less reliance on one country is better for everyone.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

They’re trying to block mexican made Chinese vehicles as well. They don’t want Americans buying cheap evs.

[–] MrPloppy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"We want expensive American EVs that most people can't afford, not cheap Chinese ones....."

[–] bostonbananarama@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

China is subsidizing EV production and selling cars below cost. Allowing them to be sold in the US would kill the domestic EV market. How is that better for Americans?

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Also by claiming "developing nation", which is up to the nation to decide for themselves instead of having someone else decide for them, the planet's second largest economy gets to claim WTO rules that the recipient (country) pays delivery. That's why you can buy something from China for $1.50 and yet it costs $150 to send it back if it doesn't work.

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Go ahead and walk, no one is stopping you.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Anti China Republicans are going to HATE this! They would MUCH rather Elect the man whose Daughter got over 70 patents FASTTRACKED in China once he was elected!