I'm going to go way out on a limb here and guess nothing will happen if I do neither.
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The article says that’s what the government is telling employees since there were several critical vulnerabilities found in chrome. It is very convenient that these vulnerabilities were patched in the same update that manifest v2 is removed though
That's what I was thinking. It's mighty convenient...
CVEs are constantly found in complex software, that's why security updates are important. If not these, it'd have been other ones a couple of weeks or months later. And government users can't exactly opt out of security updates, even if they come with feature regressions.
You also shouldn't keep using software with known vulnerabilities. You can find a maintained fork of Chromium with continued Manifest V2 support or choose another browser like Firefox.
Hi. I'm using Netscape!
I'm using IE5.5 and a screen resolution of 800x600 because a website said that was the best way to view it 25 years ago.
xkcd.com is best viewed with Netscape Navigator 4.0 or below on a Pentium 3±1 emulated in Javascript on an Apple IIGS at a screen resolution of 1024x1. Please enable your ad blockers, disable high-heat drying, and remove your device from Airplane Mode and set it to Boat Mode. For security reasons, please leave caps lock on while browsing.
Never realized that was there. One of the ten thousand.
I'm using tilt controls!
You also shouldn't keep using software with known vulnerabilities. You can find a maintained fork of Chromium with continued Manifest V2 support or choose another browser like Firefox.
It's disgusting how this exact idea is used to push users away from things they want, and no matter what they claim, you can't convince me this isn't part of how they design certain updates. When the customer has no choice but to update, the company has no reason to make the update appealing. They can actively make it all worse and worse and worse, while continuing to scare users into accepting it.
I'm tired of companies hiding behind "security" to mask anti-consumer shit, and I'm tired of the security community helping them shovel that shit while acting like the consumer is a fool for not wanting to eat it.
Yeah, go read a book or something.You have no idea what you are talking about.
Backporting security and bug fixes is a responsible and reasonable measure taken by any software that actually respects its users ESPECIALLY when a new breaking update is released. You failed at bullying a stranger with valid concerns. Try to bring reason with you next time before you decide to be rude and condescending.
Maybe that software doesn’t need to be so fucking “complex”. It’s a web browser. Stop cramming everything but the kitchen sink into it. Half of the crap in web browsers like WebGL and WASM should be plugins anyway.
You can find a maintained fork of Chromium with continued Manifest V2 support or choose another browser like Firefox
You can find them, but you're not getting them installed on your government issued work computer.
Depends on the government org. Some give more flexibility than others.
Fair enough. My experience is mainly in and around the DoD.
I don't know why you'd jump to the dev channel, though. Just apply the stable channel update.
Government isn't telling employees shit. Federal users have no control over browser updates or most settings. At best this is a directive to push updates to it department head.
headlines have focused on the detrimental effect this will have on ad blockers, which will need to adopt a complex workaround to work as now. There is a risk that users reading those headlines might seek to delay updating their browser, to prevent any ad blocker issues; you really shouldn’t go down this road—the security update is critical.
It's almost like tying together feature updates with security updates was a deliberate choice by tech companies so that they could tell users shit exactly like this.
How can there be any real market choices when software literally tells users "for your own safety, you must abandon the things you want, and take the things we give you".
We're all trying to figure out where these headlines came from. The stable channel with all the fixes does not (at this time) bundle the warning. How is that users have become confused and believe the dev channel is the only way to get security fixes?
The headline is supposedly CISA urging users to either update or delete Chrome — it's not Chrome/Google itself. However, I'm having trouble finding the actual CISA alert. It's not linked in the article as far as I can tell.
When it comes to open source software, market choices aren't nearly as necessary because new ones can be created at will and very low cost by forking. But in the abstract thech companies are definitely not interested in choices. Choices don't maximize profits.
Maintaining a fork of Chromium would cost millions to do it responsibly.
It depends on how fat the fork is. While I haven't worked on Blink, as a developer who works on other people's very large codebases, including one from Google, I disagree. There are free tools for build automation. That'll take care of being up-to-date with upstream in terms of security. Patching things can be done using conflict-minimizing strategies. I used to work at an Android OEM and I've seen it done with great success. Thinking of Blink specifically, there have been lots of forks during its WebKit days. If I remember correctly there are also thin forks of Firefox maintained by some open source developers. This is all to support thay I don't think it's that big of a deal. Especially if most of it is rebranding and restoring some deprecated or deleted functionality. Could be wrong. I think we'll see, because I have a feeling the cost of maintaining a Chromium fork could be cheaper than patching apps to work well on Firefox. Some corpos might even pitch in. Not to mention that it isn't at all obvious for how long Firefox will be developed by Mozilla. If they drop the ball at some point we'll be faced with implementing new features in Firefox vs patching features of Chromium. ⚖️
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I choose to just continue not having it in the first place. I uninstalled it from my work PC a year ago and never put it on either personal install. Definitely haven’t missed it.
But you're missing out on all those privacy violations, and spying!
Yeah, no one's thinking of the exhibitionists! For shame!
"Well, BYE!"
Great reference. Also, you can do gifs in Lemmy. Not sure if everyone knows that or not.
Ooo being fancy with .webp
Which of you fools still use Google products?
Sometimes we have to for work. That or Edge :(
Your IT department should be very concerned
I have to use for work, because all our customer only uses chrome or chrome-based browser :(
Show them the way!!! … to Firefox.
Well it's me bc my job :
- YouTube Revanced for entertainment
- MicroG for account for apps that need google dependency for work
- Gmail for personal email although nowadays i rarely used it because my client rather used Telegram or WhatsApp
- GDrive for backup
I highly recommend looking at something like Proton for 3 and 4. Or backblaze for 4 if it's truly for backup.
Thx for recommendations bro
I already used proton but that's only for truly personal stuff, a lot of things on my country only support Microsoft mail or google sadly that's why I'm still using gmail for works, same thing like WhatsApp
Now i only need recommendations for YouTube apps that can sync playlist from my YouTube (like SpMp music player), bc i hate using YtRevanced patch every time YouTube roll out new apps
Ah. I still have a "gmail" account but it's entirely for the places that require a Google account now.
As for YouTube, I just stumbled across this thread: https://lemmy.zip/post/16741291
chrome, hahaha
delete...
So google manufactured a (possibly false) security risk to force users into updating to manifest v3 software?
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I always use Mozilla Firefox
sips hot chocolate
So that isn't my concern.
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What a pos company
I really need to start to de-google my life
Do it!
I'm still working on it, but I've cut out quite a bit. Start with Chrome, and work your way down.
When you get to email, Gmail has a very convenient forwarding feature so you can forward all email to the new one while you change accounts and whatnot. I made a new account elsewhere, and I have a separate folder for email from my old Gmail and my new email. Every so often I'll go fix an account or two, so I'm making steady progress.
For me, docs/drive is the hardest, so I'm doing it last. I'm playing with self-hosted options, and am still in an adjustment period.
Getting away from Google Maps has been a tough one. There aren't many options there, it's either Google, Apple, Microsoft, or OpenStreetMap.
I've been contributing to OSM for my local area as much as possible to update businesses and their opening hours, website, etc., but it's not a small task.
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