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[–] Vinegar@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The 9to5 article is poorly written. In the first paragraph 9to5 says a new window system is "scheduled to replace" the current one, but this is not true. The cited blog post explicitly says "There’s no timeline or roadmap at this stage". The Gnome developers are merely experimenting with a new window management system and at this early stage it's impossible to know what the finished product may look like if these experiments go anywhere at all.

Here's a link to the original blog post where Gnome developer Tobias Bernard explains their dissatisfaction with existing window management systems and discusses the techinical challeneges developers face.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

I saw this and I really like that they are trying to improve it and innovate. Nothing has happened for a long time in the desktop innovation area since the web took over.

[–] gamma@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

As long as they're using standard Wayland protocols like xdg_toplevel::set_max_size/::set_min_size, I'm sure the rest of the ecosystem will be on-board for this.

[–] christophski@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like they have put a lot of thought into it so I'm keen to see where they get with it. My concern with these kind of changes is that they often end up trying to guess what the user wants, which creates an unpredictable behaviour that is then more annoying than it is helpful.

[–] alvanrahimli@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly, for this community is to blame. People mostly are against even minimal and anonymous surveys, telemetry and stuff. So, all they can do is just assuming that people want something or not.

Usually they are talking to active community members, whom, we all know that programmers and technical people.

IMHO, they need a bit more data to decide on

[–] minh2134@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet it seems to me only GNOME has this problem, and it has been there since Torvalds still publicly executing everyone in mailing list. XFCE, LXQT, hell, even KDE only has minimal complain about unexpected behavior. It seems to me that in a concerted effort to predict as much user behavior as possible, GNOME created this non existent "average user" that conforms to no one, and created this mess on their own.

Also, we are mostly against nonconsensual, non-explicit, or opt-out type of feedback. As far as I concern, efforts to point out to GNOME devs their faults are many to the point its a meme. It is also, not unrelatedly, a meme that GNOME denies these complaints because "the average users wouldn't get it") . I think it should be clear enough by now.

[–] BloodForTheBloodGod@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

You consent to their design choices by using the DM they are crafting.

[–] Reemerge1511@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I think this looks amazing. I do like the behaviour of tiling WMs, but having a DE is too comfy for me to give up. This could possibly bring the bestof both worlds.

[–] SoNick@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again? Wasn't Gnome3 bad enough?

[–] fourstepper@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really enjoy how GNOME handles windows currently already.

Between having the ability to move and resize windows with Super + (mouse left|right), switching between windows of the same application with Super + backtick, workspaces and Super + type to search, there is very little to desire.

Unlike tiling VMs, this makes sense out of the box for 99% of the apps out there while providing a really quick way to get where you need quickly.

[–] Onionizer@geddit.social 1 points 1 year ago

Even better are the three-finger swipe gestures on the laptop trackpad

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

On one hand I'm interested in seeing how well it works and what they do with it, on the other hand...

Source: https://xkcd.com/927/