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[–] Ooops@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Well... he isn't wrong. It is indeed completely irrational to fight 17 months, lose hundred thousand+ soldiers, most of your somewhat modern equipment and damage your economy for decades to come while proving to be incapable of even remotely reaching the goals set for just a 3-day-long invasion. And Russia should finally pack up, go home and end this shit show.

And now let's wait for his brilliant plan to actually get Russia to wake up from their insane fever dream and delusion of grandeur... That is his plan, isn't it? *cough*

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[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Hey Andres, if the USA would invade and annex the Yucatán Peninsula (Cancún) how would you feel if some country on the other side of the world ask you to stop the fight and just talk to the USA? ... yeah, right.

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By that logic the entirety of America should declare unending war against the United States. Doesn't sound that terrible if you ask me, but isn't exactly the "humanitarian" approach.

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[–] taanegl@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Uh, yeah, the thing about that? Russia wants concessions Ukraine will not give. It would also embolden the Duma and quite frankly they deserve all the L's they can get.

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[–] xerazal@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

Then push Russia to withdraw from Ukraine and pay reparations for the damage they've done. The only thing irrational about this war is that Russia started it and keeps acting like it's justified.

[–] Pixlbabble@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

YEah I don't care but diplomacy would be nice. You can't sell me a war.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Given Angela Merkel said outloud that minsk negotiations were a delaying tactic, what incentive is there to negotiate?

A ceasefire would be great. Which is why you don't use negotiations cynically.

[–] badaboomxx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remeber, this idiot side is with the russians.

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