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If a comment or post gets reported, I can think of a number of different groups who might see that report:

  • The moderators of the community in which it was posted.
  • The admins of the instance hosting the community (call it instance X).
  • The admins of the reporter's instance (call it Y).
  • The admins of the poster's instance (call it Z).

Do all of these see the report? Only some subset? Some other group I'm not thinking of?

And if it is all/multiple of these, how does the actioning work? If the report's admin removes a post, does that mean nobody from instance Y can see it, but everyone else still can, or does it remove it more widely? Same for Z's admins and Z users. If X admins remove it, I presume that means nobody at all will see it, is this correct? And would a mod approving it means that admins of various instances will then not see the report, or does it stay in their queue separately?

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[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I asked a similar question a month ago and it seems like reports go everywhere. I guess it makes sense when instances have different rules and communities might as well

https://leminal.space/post/4351930

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

omg I love your instance name. (But I hate that font :O)

But actually I think I did see that post, and the responses in it were probably part of what was bouncing around my brain that led me to ask this post. Because my main curiosity was less around who reports go to (I asked that to make sure I hadn't missed something, more than for any other reason), but around what happens when reports are actioned by one of those groups, but not others.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What about the font do you dislike?

And I get what you are saying. I'm not too sure.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago

Monospaced fonts outside of my IDE? Ugly, awkward to read, and just weird.

[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's different on other instances, but here on feddit a report gets "closed" as soon as someone resolves it. Doesn't matter who did it. So if a comment on my community gets reported both I and the admin see that, and depending on who's faster one of us can either delete the reported content or simply mark it as read. In both cases it's no longer pending. The reports work like an inbox, so if I really wanted to I could double check resolved reports and delete them manually afterwards. Never saw the need to do that though. Im sure the other way around is possible as well.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Damn that's very disappointing. It makes sense in some cases—if the local instance admin removes it, no reason for the community mod to ever see it. But if, say, a beehaw admin removes it after a bee reports it, a lemmy.world should still get to see the content in their queue to decide if they want to remove it, too.

[–] russjr08@bitforged.space 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

AFAIK the inbox analogy that the previous user wrote applies on an instance level, so in your example the LW admin would still see it (assuming it was against a LW user or something in one of their communities, I believe).

The "mark report as resolved" option doesn't federate to other instances, if that makes sense. It'll mark it as resolved for that whole instance (so a community mod won't see the report anymore once an admin from that instance marks it as resolved and vice versa), but not other instances.

At least, that's as far as I understand it, don't quote me on that 😅

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 0 points 7 months ago

Ah I see. Thanks for the clarification! That's much less of a problem then. (Though still not ideal, since an instance admin might approve something for not violating instance rules, while it does violate specific community rules.)

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They go to every party, so if you see rule-breaking content, even if it's from a moderator (ESPECIALLY if it's from a moderator) then report it. Reports are the only communication that certain parties get into how things are being run, so it can really kickstart diplomacy efforts if someone, a community, or an instance is being openly abusive. Exception: some apps will allow you to choose where your reports go.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They go to every party

Yeah I thought that was the case, and to be honest the main reason I asked this question was for the questions in the second paragraph around what happens when different types of users action the report.

But also, are the 4 groups I mentioned all correct? I didn't miss one?

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Mods: Get every report in the community and can temp/perm ban you from the community and/or remove the comment

Admins (community's instance and reported user's instance) Can do anything a moderator can, and can ban you from their instance (bans you from all communities on that instance as well) When this happens, you will essentially be shadowbanned from every user on that instance, which in some cases can be a blessing as some instances have some VERY harassing users so they will no longer be able to bother you any more after the ban.

Admins (your instance) They have access to the server your account is on, so they can do anything to you. Being banned from your own instance is like having your account seized. Your content will stay up (if they choose not to delete it) and you won't be able to log in. You won't be given a chance to appeal so you're basically locked out.

Admins (other instances) They won't get your report but if they see your comment and find it particularly distasteful, they may choose to ban you from their instance, and you can bet your bottom dollar they won't be accepting your request if you ever try to sign up there.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago

So if one of these groups has already actioned it, the post will still appear in the queue for the other groups to take a look at? I vaguely recall hearing about an issue where admins approving a comment would mean mods won't get to see it, or vice versa. Is that me misreading/misremembering something, or has it since been fixed?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm guessing "target instance" here means both the host instance of the community and the instance of the user doing the reporting, which may be the same or may be two different instances?

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

How does moderation work on Lemmy?

They just ban piracy and delete random posts, that's about it.