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[–] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've become anarcho-communist in my political beliefs and value system. It took being in disability for 8 years after a serious mental health episode that made me start to become more of a humanist. The ample evidence of the problems of society due to capitalism and the widening wealth and resource gap pushed me very far to the left. I think I became a better person through my turnoil. I started understanding that we need to live for each other in addition to ourselves. The notion of bootstrapping is essentially a myth.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 20 points 1 year ago

No one should be poor. No exceptions.

My stint in poverty wasn't even that bad. Sure, I had $40 for food and gas for two weeks while the soles literally fell out of my shoes and off my feet while working in a hot kitchen for several years. But I wasn't a migrant, legal or otherwise. I had an okay upbringing, and didn't have trauma cut my future before it even started. I was never homeless. And so on.

Nonetheless, I felt taken advantage of over time. Eventually, the restaurant I worked at moved to a new location with me, gave me a rise to $10 per hr, which was huge to me, and then cut my hours in half. I had to get another job after helping these people through so much. I was one of the original employees at that location and was pushed out by management.

So, there was one burning question in my mind: why was I pushed out? But the question transformed into "Why did I have to go through that at all?"

One of the reasons I got an economics degree is to understand the most popular answers deeply. People are poor because they don't work hard enough, they're unskilled or low-skilled, government is taking your money, etc.

All of it is bullshit. All of it. Every last trash excuse that justifies poverty is a lie. Neoclassical economics is a theory of selfishness and misanthropy.

Poverty is a policy choice. Poverty, by America, by Matthew Desmond, is an excellent book about this. We give tax breaks for people owning second homes, for example. What else could the money collected from owners of second homes do for social policy? Reagan cut corporate taxes. But, if those taxes were higher, how could the money be used to alleviate poverty?

Essentially, I lived poverty, tried to understand why I endured it, and came up empty. There's no reason other than selfishness why I endured it. And the same is true of everybody in poverty today around the entire world.

[–] Daeraxa@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Try not to be a dick" is probably the most base but somehow most meaningful phrase I've ever heard and I try to live by it. Sure there is a lot more to me and things go a lot deeper but I feel if everyone at least attempted to adhere to it then who knows what things might be like.

[–] Sheltac@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah it’s insane how much time I spent reading about ethics and shit, and then have “don’t be a dick” be one of main driving factors in my decision making.

You know what? It works just fine.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

"Never trust a fart." This phrase has inspired healthy skepticism ever since it was coined by Abraham Lincoln.

[–] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I tend to tutor people randomly. Siblings mostly, sometimes friends, occasionally strangers. It makes me feel good. I get a pretty strong shot of vicarious triumph when I help them achieve a goal.

And I would always hear the same things from people who struggled.

"I'm just not good at this" I would hear.

"I suck at math" would be pretty common too.

This was never spoken by people whose minds were actually incapable of comprehension. Each and every one of them proved smart enough to perform what they deemed an impossible task. But in order to instill the confidence necessary to make it through the problems, I always had to set them straight, open their minds to the possibility that they were wrong about themselves.

At first it seemed kind of inspirational: "no one is too stupid to accomplish their goals," you know? But after it happened enough times, I started to feel like I was some brain surgeon pulling the same damn tumor out of patient after patient, skull after skull. It was a fucking epidemic of self-doubt so strong it literally affected people's entire life trajectory.

At some point, unrelated to tutoring, I wound up chatting with a stranger who had just walked out of some, "Donald Trump's key to success" kind of conference that had taken place on my campus. (It was like, 2013. I didn't know who Donald Trump was back then.) He asked me a few questions. My answers impressed him, and he called me "smart."

And I hated him instantly.

The second that word came out of his mouth, a wave of distrust and enmity washed over me, and I felt like he was trying to scam me. Mind you, I am a 5'11" 180lb man. It's not like he was practicing pickup on me. It was almost-certainly an attempt at practicing the "networking" skills he picked up from the conference he just attended. And the only reason it didn't play well to his audience was because I hated the word "smart" and hated anyone who believed in the concept.

And then, some years later, I was able to finally articulate it after someone chastised me online for calling my own actions stupid -- for using, as a commenter described it, "an ableist slur." Boy did the pieces click together after that.

This is going to seem crazy, but ladies, gentlemen, esteemed in-betweens: there is so such thing as "stupid." There never was.

The human brain is a miraculous thing. It can literally rewire itself if it needs to. With the right techniques, a brain can even be induced to repair itself after certain kinds of strokes. Meaning if, hypothetically, one were "stupid" then the proper application of societal resources could actually turn that same person smart. Just like how I was able to tutor "bad at math" students into "good at math" students.

Which is probably why Rockefeller and Carnegie were so keen on making everyone believe in the concept. Because what I just described is expensive, and if there's a ceiling on a person's potential (like "stupid"), then that gives society a really good excuse to give up on that person before spending a dime.

"We're already doing all we can for these people." the well-intentioned steel monopolist tells you, "They get every opportunity they need. The reason they struggle so much in this society? They just... aren't that bright. They were just never capable of that much to begin with."

"Stupid" is, in other words, a social Darwinist myth created by billionaires to abdicate responsibility for the poverty they were creating. And if someone expresses a belief in, "stupid" I know I cannot count on them. I hope to someday surround myself with people who despise the word and everything it stands for. Because those are the people I can trust to actually improve the world.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I have a masters degree in materials chemistry and engineering. When people find that out they often say stuff like "I could never understand that" or similar.

I am of the firm belief that I could teach anyone everything I know given enough time and motivation. The thing is, I don't think there's anything special about me that makes me capable of doing what I do, other than thinking chemistry is extremely interesting. I don't have a more capable brain or anything. I'm just a bit of a nerd.

I absolutely agree that way too many people have the misconception that you have to be "special" to do a lot of the things many people find hard. It's all about being interested enough to spend time learning it.

[–] Robaque@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy fuck, mega based take ya got there. Social darwinism is a bane to society, deeply rooted in capitalist thought and also loved by fascists for its eugenic undertones. People get fooled that it's somehow "scientific" because it's got darwinism in the name (and because of poor education) when it's nothing but pseudoscience. Same goes for the phrase "survival of the fittest" which is a social darwinist misinterpretation of Darwin's theories.

In a similar vein, I firmly believe that everyone is creative in some way. Most people are just unable to discover what their creative interests might be because of the pressures of (over)work, because art education is so goddamn expensive, and because creative industries are incredibly exclusive and elitist. And limiting creativity severely limits our imagination, making us good little cogs for the machine.

Hell yes to all of this! Any defense of capitalism requires social darwinism.

That is, if you can get someone to comprehend what "capitalism" even is! I am astounded at how difficult it is to communicate the difference between a worker co-op and a privately owned business. To anyone!

It's weird because it seems so obvious to me. It's a difference in how the worker is treated. A difference in the dignity of their work. A whole different social contract.

I don't know what combination of words I need to use to get them to see this! It's so frustrating. How can they so easily understand the difference between a dictatorship and a representative republic, but not be able to extend that logic to how we run businesses? What kind of incredible social programming have robber barons performed on them?

Anyways, rant over for now. I agree that we are hobbled by overwork. I agree that our creativity is forcefully suppressed in order to make us better cogs. I just wish I could figure out how to spread the word.

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[–] lightstream@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find your comment interesting because you are implying that some people believe being stupid or clever is a permanent unchangeable state. Presumably one is born as either one or the other?

I would say that some ways of thinking are stupid. In particular when one does not challenge one's assumptions. It's possible to build a whole world of stupid on top of bad assumptions. If someone's entire worldview is built in this way - a whole load of bad assumptions held together with poor logic and wishful thinking - I don't think they're even living in the real world any more, they're living in a fantasy land.

Oh, yes. I am fine with the idea that every human -- regardless of their occupation or their results on an IQ test -- can engage in something that could be called "stupidity."

Absolutely everyone makes stupid mistakes. Absolutely everyone holds at least a few stupid beliefs.

But I also think when we encounter those aspects of a person, we can use better words to describe the concept. Words that don't have a social darwinist connotation. Words that no one mistakes for "permanent, unchanging" attributes.

Like: I don't like Trump supporters, but "Trump supporters have an impressive resistance to information that might challenge their worldview" is so much better than "facts don't work on them: Trump supporters can't read."

The former describes a choice these people repeatedly make. The latter is immature name-calling.

And to be honest, my main gripe with conservatism in general isn't even how its proponents handle information. (Everyone has to use heuristics to quickly estimate the reliability of a news article before believing the headline. They take as much issue with our heuristics as we take with theirs.)

My main gripe is that conservatism is a social darwinist philosophy at its core.

"Black people get lower grades. Clearly they have worse access to an environment that facilitates learning. We need to expand access to libraries and safe spaces so we can better foster these children's growth" A progressive might say.

And the conservative will respond: "you had me at 'black people get lower grades.' That says everything there is to say. They just can't compete. Strongest chimp gets the most bananas, you know?" /Shrug/

Giving up on people is practically the bedrock of modern conservatism. I would accuse them of being cruel before I would accuse them of being unable to read. I would accuse them of ignoring information that does not justify their cruelty before I would accuse them of being too stupid to process that information.

I used to get frustrated with people very easily, and honestly I still do, but I've gotten much better at keeping my cool. I can't think of any specific moment or anything that brought me here, but at some point I realized that getting angry and blowing up at somebody just doesn't do anybody any good. Like even looking at it from a completely selfish perspective, shouting at somebody over an annoyance isn't going to help me with anything at all, and in fact it's likely to just make the situation worse. It's been long enough that I don't really even feel tempted to anymore.

Another thing is like... I used to lean much more conservative until I eventually realized that it's just rather self-destructive. I never bought into the more extreme stuff like believing certain ethnicities are inherently, genetically inferior to others, but to put it simply for a while I was convinced that things like feminism and environmentalism were going to "take stuff away from me." Not even on some grand scale of like destroying western civilization or whatever people like to say these days, but just that I as an individual would be less likely to succeed and get rich or whatever.

I was more libertarian-ish in college, and I think it was all the battles for net neutrality around 2013-2015 or so that finally got me to realize that a complete lack of government oversight would be untenable for anyone who isn't already wealthy. From there, especially as the online right started getting louder and crazier, I started to figure out that the same people who'd been "warning" me and other sad nerds like me about feminism and whatever were the only ones who were actually trying to force people to do anything. Most people just want to exist, man. They're not trying to push some agenda on everyone else, they just wanna live their damn lives.

As for the environmentalism bit, yeah I only ever "doubted" climate change because I thought trying to prevent it was gonna stop me from getting rich and having a fancy car and shit. I always knew it was real, I just wanted to not care and be all belligerent about it. And no, of course I didn't have a plan for how I was gonna get rich lmao, I was a dumb, selfish kid. ~~Now I know I'll never get rich no matter what I do and we're all gonna die in a climate disaster anyway, so whatever lol.~~

I dunno how much I can say any of this guides or inspires me, but I do feel like I've become a better person at least, somehow.

[–] poorsocialskills@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I’m trying to be more kind. Normally, I tend to be analytical and abrupt. If someone is wrong, I try to demonstrate it a simply as possible and move on. If they’re right, that is good, there’s no reason to celebrate; move on. I find most people don’t respond well to any of this, for their own reasons. So, I’m trying to set that aside and simply be more gentle when handling interactions with another person.

[–] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So many to choose from :) I guess for today it will be... Shit happens.
Bad things can happen to you for no reason. You can agonize over it, wonder why, etc. Or you can accept that it happened, focus on dealing with the consequences and try to make the best out of it.
It's not always easy, but I do feel it has made me more laid back and happier in general.


Edited because Thelsim doesn't know how to proofread

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 7 points 1 year ago

People like to say that as you get older, you become more conservative. It’s been the exact opposite for me and I have my parents to thank. They never pushed political or religious bullshit on me, but I saw their humanist accepting personalities and it shaped me more than either of them ever knew.

I’ve gotten more confident in my views and try to convey that the only way to survive is as a working class collective that doesn’t fall for political theater like we constantly see today. It’s lead me to be more supportive of others at work, to be more nuanced, and it’s helped me become a better leader and teacher.

It’s helped me settle into who I actually am and has allowed me to better tune out the constant noise from people that can’t help but cheer on political demagogues and their pointless nonsense.

[–] Bldck@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Not a direct answer to your question, but I read How to be Perfect last year. Michael Schur (creator of Parks and Rec) wrote the book as an exploration of the research they did to make The Good Place.

It’s a survey of philosophy for non-philosophers and does a great job breaking down how to make good choices without being preachy.

Here’s the link

[–] moipe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone for any reason ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been... ever, for any reason whatsoever...

-Michael Scott

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Shared spaces are everyone's space and obligation. Trash or a tree branch on the road or sidewalk? Rather than "not my concern" a mindset of "shared space, shared responsibility/free to clean up" mindset will serve everyone - and especially those not currently able to do so/that could be hindered by the obstacles.

"Everyone" meaning every individual fully rather than split/miniscule parts.

[–] loffiz@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Almost all fights/arguments come out of misunderstandment. It's not always misunderstanding the situation itself but what led the other person to this situation. Why is he/she saying this? It's hard enough to also understand what a person is saying. But once you understand both, it's hard to be upset.

My other most important value; let others be others. You and everyone can do as you like as long as no one is forced into it as well. Example: someone going through abortion with a fetus not capable of feeling does not affect anyone since it's unknowing and the abortion itself doesn't force others into a debate or partaking. However, denying the possibility of abortion will limit the person wanting abortion.

Edit: what brought me to this was just pure experience and socialization. My second girlfriend helped me get to the first point. The other one I guess my parents instilled.

[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Be excellent to each other and party on dudes. It's a fun movie with a simple principle which I try to follow. It's also a reminder to have fun and enjoy the little things. The world would be a much better place if everyone followed it.

[–] hsl@wayfarershaven.eu 4 points 1 year ago

I do my best work when I'm empowering others.

Sure, I can take the spotlight and do some really cool things. But when I support others, for example by helping them figure out or achieve their goals, create opportunities, connect people, etc., then I'm helping add even more good to the world.

[–] TokyoCalling@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Overwork and the pursuit of wealth is detrimental to you and your relationships. Earning enough for a simple life and then stopping allows time to be a decent human.

I walk an average of three hours a day. My young adult children ask me to go with them to the movies. My wife works enough and no more. We split the chores and have few resentments. The crows along the river swoop down when I pass by. I stop and feed them peanuts.

I learned this by becoming aware of just how little it served me and my family to really put in the hours and take every opportunity that came my way.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That stupidity is worse than malice.

It's a relatively uncommon moral value that I follow. Without going too much into details, I picked this up after realising that people caused me more harm through actions that didn't benefit them, than through ones that did it. And then realised that it was not just towards me - people cause more harm to everyone else due to stupidity than malice.

This has the following consequences for me:

  • If I do something wrong, I can't excuse myself through "I had good intentions". I actually need to fix it, or admit that I don't care.
  • It made me more lenient towards people acting on their own interests, in a selfish albeit transparent way. Including myself.
  • It makes me avoid fools that keep screwing everything up, and then saying "but I thought that..." (no, you did not think - and that is the problem)

[Edited for phrasing.]

[–] the_and_sys@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe that curiosity is a virtue. Identifying and Explaining are the two tenets of my philosphy, to seek out and to understand is my way of living.

(this is a reference to somehting, but that something has influenced me so much)

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Everything is a story, the only bits of truth we will ever find will come from nature if we make the correct question and understand correctly the answer.

Everything changes.

Work, on physics, can be defined as force*distance. It looks like what we do for living. A big effort does not guarantee big results. So work smart.

Some people say that war cause technology leaps. I think that "a lot of people working together to achieve a difficult goal" is the source of those leaps. War is just a sad instance of that setting.

[–] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Be brave, be kind, and work hard.

The last one is the only one I really manage.

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