Asklemmy

You are overthinking this. If you like green tea, but an instance admin prefers coffee, would you stop posting on every community on that instance? Do you only want to post where people 100% align with your views on everything? I guess not, because then you would have to host a private instance where you only talk to yourself. Therefore, stop overthinking this and keep posting there.

If the question whether somebody federates with Threads or not is THAT important to you, then you already have your answer.

Overall, I really hope we do not come to a point where thoughts like "my instance does not federate with $evilinstance, therefore it's a good instance. But $otherinstance does, therefore $otherinstance sucks and I'll avoid everything on $otherinstance" become the norm. Because then we get a clusterfuck.

Hey Pandora, I think you left your box ..

That's the good thing with federation. You can participate in communities without visiting the instance even once.

What are you even talking about, here?

Current implementation seems to focus on administrative domains for control, like email servers with individual policies and reputations. What if we look at this the other way?

People have different value systems. Are you ok with promotion for monetary gain? (No never / only individual contributors promoting themselves / only small businesses and below / yes) Are you annoyed by $controversial_topic? Do you dislike when bored people make a conversation game out of someone else’s need for obscure technical help?

The details can be decided later by people smarter than me. The point, though, is that these value systems aren’t universal. Users should decide their own.

Meta interactions (up down report friend block) should be aligned to these values. My client would gather meta-mod data as well as votes/comments. I could easily configure my client to hide things, or group similar distractions together and show/hide them all together. Your client could work differently.

I have no idea how we would possibly implement this with federation. Civically minded users create a meta-moderation identity with a PGP key, sign and publish their decisions, and let people choose to trust them based on past behavior?

Probably still flawed, susceptible to karma farming and cashing out. If well known mods start betraying their users, the bad activities are signed and can be used as proof they can no longer be trusted, though it could take days to get people to stop trusting someone.

Even the whole value system idea can be subverted. Dog whistles, toxic in-jokes, things which are offensive in context but seem fine judged later out of context, etc.

But I want this for us all. (And I vaguely remember seeing something similar on slashdot in the 90s) I have no idea if Lemmy can even support it though.

There’s a really big difference though between communities splitting off Reddit and split from an instance here. I still have my Lemmy.world account but I’m defaulting now to this one. Lemmy.world is a great starting point for people to branch from and pick from there.

You can still access your communities without visiting the instance.

Please ELI5 for idiots like me. What’s the problem now with lemmy.world?

I'll answer on general grounds.

I don't think that there's a single correct answer for that. Each case is a case; you need to balance how important are your political views vs. centralisation for you, and decide your course of action.

A few highlights:

• The difference between a bag of spilling versus putting your eggs in different baskets is just point of view. More comms about the same topic = if one of them goes down, the others still survive.
• Users can subscribe to multiple comms with the same topic. That's what I do with cooking comms, for example - !cooking@lemmy.world, !cooking@lemmy.ml, !food@beehaw.org, I'm in all of them, and I (as a user) see no problem with this.
• Somewhere down the road I predict that the devs will going to allow users (or perhaps the mods) to "group" comms across instances, to visualise their content together. So the bag of spilling will get better over time.
• Remember that comms don't just abide to the instance rules, they also set up their own rules. If your issue with the instance is that it lacks a specific rule that you feel to be important, you might want to talk with its mods to actively set that rule up.

Based on that I think that the problem is smaller than it looks like. If you don't like the comm about that topic, for whatever reason (including the instance that it's hosted on), by all means, create another elsewhere.

Sorry but: TLDR