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So I am planning on buying an ipad, never owned one before. I have always been an android guy and from what I have heard Ipad os or ios is pretty restrictive in nature so I was wondering how much does it hamper the piracy experience. For example on android I can torrent files of any nature or size without any restrictions and sideload the apk's of paid apps to enjoy them for free, can I still do all this on an ipad or should I just drop the idea and get an android tablet instead ?

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[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Torrent clients are banned from the Apple Store and you can't sideload apps. It's a very restrictive device in many respects.

[–] LarrytheLobster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can sideload apps but it’s really annoying without having a developer account or without a bought udid (which is I think not really allowed). This would however allow you to have sideload more apps and you only have to refresh the certificates every year. You can still sideload with sideloadly or altstore but as I said, it’s really annoying because you need to refresh the certificates every few days and you can only have 3 apps sideloaded.

[–] elboomy@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the other hand, as of June 2023, general dev accounts have become free. They only cost 100 USD when you want to submit apps to the App Store. It’s still a hassle, compared to Android, but it’s not as bad anymore.

[–] jedi@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This general dev account can sign any ipa?

[–] doleo@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I don't think that's the case, but I'd like to be proven wrong. You can use a free icloud account to temporarily sign apps for a week using Alterserver, but afaik you still need a paid account to sign them for a year.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

This should get somewhat easier in 2024, in the EU at least.

I doubt torrent apps would work well on an iPad though unless it's running in the foreground.

[–] B3_CHAD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

uuff, that apple silicon is the only thing that made me wanna buy an ipad in the first place but I can't deal with their restrictive software environment.

[–] kniescherz@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get a used M1 Macbook Air. MacOs isnt restricted like their mobile devices. Its passivly cooled, relativly cheap, portable and also capable for more serious productive work.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

relatively cheap

Unless you require storage (or memory)

[–] kniescherz@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definetly get the base model, use a NAS for storage and just download more RAM

[–] White_Flight@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

how do you download more RAM?

[–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yep didn't knew that when I brought my first apple device(iPad). But android space was bad when I brought it so there's that.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

LOL I wouldn’t recommend it. Stay with Android if you want to do practically anything outside the official app store. I use an iphone and an android tablet.

edit: Jailbreaking is a thing, but it’s a pain in the ass and you’re stuck on old iOS versions until the jailbreaks get updated, which could be a long while.

[–] B3_CHAD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

No problem, Android is definitely more for sailors because they can use extensions in Firefox, do torrents, install emulators, etc. I have an ipad for business but an android tablet for fun.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Apple products are generally the worst way to attempt to do anything with a computer. Drop the idea.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd say if you want to sail the high seas keep away from ipads. They're so locked down it's crazy. But, others may know more. Will be interesting to see other's feedback.

[–] B3_CHAD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Thanks, I will wait for better android tablets.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm loving my Galaxy Tab 9 Ultra. It's sturdy, can go in the shower (I don't normally but I wanted to test it), has great multi-window features, has Dex which is also sometimes useful, is snappy, and I can basically sideload whatever I want.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

my brother has a budget samsung tablet. i'm not a fan of samsung myself, but he says it's great. way easier file management too. hmu if you want to pirate anything specific, i may know a few websites.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at the galaxy tabs. I have one, and it's quite the thing. Mine is the S8 plus. Beautiful machine. Unfortunately infected with Samsung and Google spyware, but at least I can sideload, connect to my computer, run a terminal, etc.

[–] kniescherz@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are super expensive but worth it when you use their features. You can e.g. connect it to a PC, use it as a second monitor and as a drawing tablet for photoshop. Similar drawing tablets from wacom arent nearly as versatily and cost similar or even more.

That said, I just use my S7+ for notes, youtube and comics. Probably not worth it but I love the excellent screen.

[–] wolfshadowheart@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can e.g. connect it to a PC, use it as a second monitor and as a drawing tablet for photoshop.

This is interesting. What kind of software on PC or just pretty native?

[–] kniescherz@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

There is a native feature from Samsung and third party apps as well. Third party apps need to be installed on PC and on the tablet.

[–] White_Flight@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

you can buy a premium Android Tablet used for a good price, try Swappa.

[–] namelivia@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Back in the days, I used to have an iPad full of games and software, I'm talking about a 1st gen iPad and it was about one year or two after it was first released.

Then with the new iPads, OS updates and so the app repositories died out and apple dropped official support and now it is a mechanically fully funcional device that is completely unusable because of the software it contains.

[–] DontAskAboutUpdog@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want to download cracked apps and torrents avoid the iPad.

That said, I love my iPad. I have a number of pay-one-time apps that I use and I have a linux server at home for torrenting. I stream it all to the TV and occasionally to iPad. You see, iPad (iphone etc) are not made for data storage.

[–] White_Flight@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

same, I prefer iPads over Android tablets, but the lockdown BS from Apple is annoying AF

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't bother. My iPad pro is gathering dust as even loading a simple manga reader requires hours of work, patreon subscriptions and it breaks all the time.

Killed any interest I had in Apple ecosystem when my 1k usd + device is being held hostage by some corporate knobbers.

[–] anoxydre@jlai.lu 0 points 1 year ago

Wut? Paperback allows you to get any manga from scan sources like Mangadex, with reading list / read status support, and is available on the App Store.

[–] kindenough@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stremio, Realdebrid and Infuse is what I use for streaming movies and series on our iPad and Apple TV's. I mostly use the iPad though for making music, or as a controller for my home studio with very low latency. I like the cleaner UI and no ads.

I guess though for what you want the Android experience is better suited, even watching torrents on Apple is jumping through hoops although it works solid after configuration. My son uses an iPad since a few weeks and was surprised how useful it is, using PC, Google TV and Android phone.

[–] jedi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What apps do you use to stream realdebrid on iPad? I have a realdebrid account but I have to use Kodi to stream.

[–] kindenough@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago
[–] jpants@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

stremio web

[–] MadmanX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I sideload apps on my ipad pro, but as others have stated, it's nowhere near as straightforward as doing so on Android. I mainly decided to do it after my wife continued to spend $$ on "coins" and "gold bars" for Candy Crush on her ipad. It was cheaper for me to buy a developer account and sideload modded versions that have unlimited coins, etc. She's stuck in the apple ecosystem, even though I did try giving her and Android tablet to try out.

If you decide to try sideloading on IOS devices, and you spend the $99 for a developer account, I recommend using Sideloadly or something like Altstore to sideload apps to your device vs. a service that requires you to provide your certificates from your developer account to attach it to their ecosystem. Maybe some are legit and won't compromise your developer account credentials, but I prefer standalone tools that I self host, for security reasons. They are more work thought.

A compromise might be to use a services like Singulous that sells you a "slot" on a developer account for $10-20. The problem with those is they periodically get revoked and your sideloaded apps must be reloaded. For more info, you might look at reddit /r sideloaded.

Best of luck!

[–] White_Flight@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

I used Singulous on my iPad and my sideload apps that were signed by Singulous still work 5 months after my subscription to Singulous ran out, definitely easier then using Altstore, which always gave me trouble

[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Don't. It's almost unusable. You'll have to pay money to sideload apps. Imagine paying for piracy.

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

You can’t use torrents on iOS. You would need to have a pc and load files in.

Pirating apps is a lot harder.

It’s not ideal, But iOS is nice to use, and iPads are very nice.. as long as you not trying to break any laws.

[–] tombuben@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

iPad works more like a terminal environment than a standalone device. Don't expect running piracy software directly on it, but you get a pretty good experience connecting to your home server.

[–] Zuckey78@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

I use Seedr on my iPad Pro. The. Download to iCloud folder which is shared with my media server (Mac mini). It’s a pretty good setup for my use case.

Overall the ipad is pretty limited but I’ve found this method useful for videos specifically. Basically you use a debrid service as a torrent downloader, and then you download the file directly from them and save it on your ipad.

You need a real-debrid account or similar. Most people on piracy forums freak out that any part of piracy cost money. I thought the same when i was a broke teen. But if you have the dough, it’s ~3€ a month to make it way easier.

With real debrid you copy magnet links from torrent sites and download them through real debrid. For some stupid reason you can’t copy the magnet link from your favorite torrent websites on Safari in iOS. There used to be a “Shortcuts” script that worked but not last time I checked, so i end up having to do this from my computer or ask a buddy who’s on a computer. Once you get the magnet link to a torrent, you go to the torrent tab in real-debrid and paste the link/upload the torrent file. Most of the time the file is already cached by RD and become available immediately. Then you can download and play with VLC. If filed are zipped, use an unzipper there are a few. Good way to load up on movies/shows before flights, and VLC handles subtitles.

[–] White_Flight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I have paid $20 for a signing service to sideload apps on my iPad.

Android is way better in terms of piracy apps, but it can be done on Apple,.but it's just a pain in the ass, I just switched to Samsung.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s possible, just more annoying to pirate on iPad. I mainly use a vpn+ movie web with decent results, my main gripe is if I cast from my iPad to my tv movie web doesn’t bring the subtitles over, they keep playing on my iPad instead.

I’m not sure if Stremio+torrentio work. If you have the luxury of having access to a media server there’s some good options to access that content from iPads.

As for torrenting, currently there are no torrent apps allowed on the App Store. You can use a service like Seedr to download the torrent for you which you can then direct download. Again, possible, just more annoying than it should be for a personal computing device. I’m hopeful that this will change with Apple seemingly being forced to allow third party app stores. Time (and the EU) will tell

[–] LarrytheLobster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stremio works over the web app. I use it, it works very nicely

[–] janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been meaning to set this up properly. Does the webapp use a native video player and is it any good? I know the original advice was to play in external

No, you still need an external player. You can chose between VLC and Outplayer

It’s really easy to set up tho. You just open web,stremio,com and then add it to your homescreen. Then you just log in as usual and chose your external player in the settings. There is some kind of notification in the beginning which you can just click to never show again and ignore. That’s all