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How do you feel about the massive influx of users?

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[–] hydra@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It makes me hopeful for the future. Enthusiasts priming the pump for people embracing a more sustainable and less exploitative business model to organize the Internet. Instead of putting all the information on a big centralized locked down platform we share the load and costs between instances.

I love what is happening now, it is pretty much the biggest display of resistance against big tech I've ever seen in my life by a long shot. I've seen most of the internet gradually decay to a shadow of its former self so this is a return to form and a switch to a better model in the long run.

People are finally adopting the Fediverse and if the adoption rates keep up we might start going mainstream with all the advantages and disadvantages, but it will be alright since Lemmy is both federated and FLOSS. Lemmy is a Rust-based, AGPLv3 platform and that means it will be protected against corruption in the foreseable future, I hope.

EDIT: Over 30% of Reddit already went dark!

[–] kunday@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s close to 50 % now. You can watch the realtime stream here - https://reddark.untone.uk/

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like it, but I am part of the massive influx of users so I am admittedly biased.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago (17 children)

12 years Reddit refugee here:

So far the concept is VERY promising but it still does all feel a bit wonky. Signing up was a headache and took me hours, sign in still sometimes work sometimes not.. A huge of development will be required to get lemmy where it needs to be to really compete with Reddit, but so far, I'm very hopeful and happy!

[–] MiracleDreamer@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It is also very hard to subscribe to other server's community (or subreddit equivalent).

E.g.: i had account from beehaw, if i want to subscribe a channel from lemmy.world i need to see the list of community from lemmy.world comminity list, but I cannot subscribe from there because i dont have lemmy.worlda account. So i need to back to beehaw and search it again in community search bar.

In jerboa android, I didnt even see a way to search new community

Would be nice if there is a way to subscribe other server easily

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[–] SpookyMarie@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just joined Lemmy because someone on reddit mentioned in it a comment on a thread regarding the blackout. It's kind of cool getting into a community while it's still relatively small. I'm excited to see how things grow.

[–] jazir5@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I hopped over here permanently tonight. Uninstalled boost on my phone, and I made Lemmy.ml my homepage. Reddit is just too depressing right now to keep it as my default.

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[–] hib@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago

I've been hoping for a shift to decentralized social platforms for ages, so I really hope that's the direction things are heading.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.fmhy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hope people have patience and stick with it. I have no interest in going back to reddit.

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[–] blade_imaginato@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As (another) reddit refugee, in order to compete with reddit, Lemmy needs to invest in its mobile apps, and make other servers easier to access.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Well unlike reddit the official app is great for lemmy.

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[–] mostlyharmless@infosec.pub 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tried Lemmy a couple months ago and tbh it felt dead, love this new influx just hope new communities keep popping up

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[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the Redditors joining Lemmy will certainly change the culture, both for the better and for the worse. Comments got pretty toxic on Reddit while I feel like the toxic comments on Lemmy were rare.

BUT, that could be a sample size thing. I'm curious to see if the ratio of toxic comments per active user would have been the same.

[–] 777@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

More people = more problems I am certain but this is a social network and without people it will fail. We must all make an effort to be the change that we want to see in the world.

I don't foresee a problem in the immediate future aside from higher server load, but in terms of culture, only people who believe in a new social network will be willing to join.

In 5 years however when this is a great place to be, a large number of people will join who don't respect the legacy. The departure from Digg to Reddit felt like this too, I hope that the federation aspect will ensure this is longer lived.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

remember... federation is your friend. federation gives you the freedeom to change house (instance) and/or look for better communities on any other federated instance from your own instance.

[–] w00tsy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Are you actually able to migrate accounts between instances?

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

currently, no - but it is on the roadmap. moving house atm means creating a new account on another instance.

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[–] noisy@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whilst I’m somewhat sad to be here (Reddit has eaten up a significant portion of my time over the past 10+ years), I’m happy to be learning new things and exploring a new way of doing things.

[–] kunday@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I honestly thought this would reduce my screen time as Reddit is on the top of the list. But here I am at Lemmy lol.

[–] Marko@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every time I hear ding, I start laughing. 😁

[–] Jupa@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the reddit blackout is for like two days i expect that 90% of them will stick to the two days and business as usual afterwards. their bottom line is to continue running mods of their communities, even if they acknowledge that was is going on with reddit is bad. they shouldnt have announced a scheduled, limited blackout.

i expect some fringe communities to come here and stay but it will always be business as usual on reddit

therefore Lemmy needs to have a reason for people to stick around, communities offering something that isnt otherwise available, even just a refreshing change of community culture

[–] subigo@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly it'll probably be closer to 99.999% of users will stick around Reddit. The largest Lemmy instance is smaller than the smallest subreddit I follow and I suspect that's probably the case for most people.

Here's what will happen... Reddit blackout starts, people come to Lemmy, 8 out of 10 are confused by the way things work and bail instantly. 2 out of 10 might stick around, try to sign up, but everyone hammers the top 3-4 instances and they have a bad first impression. A few days later everyone is back at Reddit and Lemmy is right back where it was a month ago.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt I will be.

[–] nLuLukna@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think that there will be people who remain on Lemmy permanently. This group will remain small, and insignificant. But hopefully there will be enough people to prop the instances up with content. At which point Lemmy will begin to grow slowly; this slow growth imo is the most important. But yeah alot of people will go back to Reddit and forget all about Lemmy. And that's ok.

[–] MoreIronOre@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Small

Insignificant

I see you've been talking to my ex

[–] longshaden@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is the most redditish comment I've seen so far.

remains to be seen if that's a good thing or not, but I did chuckle over the familiar joke

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[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (17 children)

You're exaggerating, I can definitely see how Twitter users changed the general atmosphere of the Fediverse, at least on the instances that I have used in the past. As for Reddit, I think it will be something similar to that, not everyone is going to migrate but Lemmy is going to be significantly bigger, better and THE place to go if you want to ditch Reddit. Also, it's not like having a big portion here of social media audience is going to do a lot of good. I have serious doubts about people being able to give value to the community if they can't even figure out how to register on an instance other than the main one

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[–] dska22@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope that lemmy makes it but I don't think that it will be easy because:

  • registering is far from straight forward. Before figuring out how to do it and which is the name of the app you need, lots of users will give up
  • I don't think that lemmy can scale well
[–] misterchief117@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree with the scalability issues. Instance owners are going to run up against whatever they can afford to pay. If a given instance grows to a point where the hardware required to run it would be too expensive, then the admin has a choice: Donations, payment, and/or sponsorship.

All have their pros and cons.

Assuming "Lemmy" becomes popular (there's a ton of barriers preventing this so far). there's inevitably going to be consolidation between whoever can afford to support the largest instances.

Also, I think the most confusing part about the whole "fediverse" is that each instance is the entire "platform" of whatever it's trying to be.

This IMO creates massive fragmentation and a ton of confusion. Which one is the "authoritative" instance? Oh there's none? Oh...well...Hmm.

I'm sort of starting to think of it like this:

Reddit (or whatever fediverse whatever) is like a single shopping mall and the stores are subreddits. Each store needs a unique name.

Lemmy is like a bunch of shopping malls with each shopping mall having its own set of stores.

Stores within a single shopping mall must have a unique name, but can use the same name as a store in another mall. For example, you'd be hard-pressed to find two Foot Lockers in the same mall, but you're likely to find them in pretty much every mall you visit in the USA at least.

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[–] Sponholz@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I honestly can't say about the influx. Since I'm part of it.

But man....

This does feel like home.

I was already loving Mastodon.

Honestly, the real question is:

What took us soo long....

I was lurking on Lemmy for a long time now read only mode, not signed up, but never had the urge to actually making an account.

I try not to have so many feeds where I'm active at once, to try and better manage the time I spend on this feeds.

Twitter and Reddit were the ones I engaged the most

Twitter became Mastodon and Reddit became Lemmy on that matter, so that I can focus on being active and helpful whenever possible.

So, what took me so long...?

Definitely something I will be asking myself for a while, since so far the experience here have something that reddit just don't. The quality over quantity aspect.

Finally...

Thanks for having me here, I hope I can contribute the best I can to maintain Lemmy awesome as it is. I don't post or reply like a madman, but I like to participate on constructive discussion every now and then.

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[–] dj3hac@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

I'm a new user but I'd love to see this place explode in popularity!

[–] Evolone@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

I’m super excited for the potential this has. Happy to be here and hoping to help build a great online community with you all!

[–] swnt@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

I'm happy for users to join the federated alternative!

[–] Pilkitonion@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Ya love to see it.

[–] mkultramkii@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’m a reddit refugee, Apollo was my most loved and most used app for years. I was really disappointed about this situation, but after checking out Lemmy, I’m starting to feel really excited about this. I like what I see so far and I think there is a lot of potential, and it is kind of fun to be here now while communities are still smaller. Onwards an upwards! I’m also checking out the beta for the iOS app Mlem, more work to be done but also good potential here. I’ve also been doing iOS dev work for about a decade so maybe I’ll see if I can help contribute to that project in some way.

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[–] zekiz@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

When were you when when Reddit die

I was sat at home play Minecraft when Chris ring

'API is did'

'no'

And you?

[–] admin@lemmy-u3.vm.elestio.app 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think we really need to address the scaling issue, one option could be to use clichhouse instead of postgres

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[–] Crocrodile@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Je trouve ça incroyable, je me suis inscrit ya à peine une semaine et les postes avaient genre 50-100 upvote max et la ça touche les 800. Puis c'est sympa de voir d'avantage de contenu.

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[–] Metatron@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Hell yeah brother

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

As a newbie, I hope the software can catch up to the needs quickly.

[–] rockhandle@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not new to Lemmy, I've hung around here on and off a couple times since the start of the year. My biggest complaint about it for a long time was that many of the subs I was interested in were just dead or didnt exist on lemmy. With the new influx of users, I imagine that's going to change, even if it does take a couple more years.

The future of Lemmy is looking very promising :)

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[–] seesaw@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God, site is so SLOW. They need to bring new servers, maybe charge extra for each api call? IDK

[–] gkd@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That guy Christian probably developed some of the code. I heard from spez that's his code is super inefficient.

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[–] MavTheHack@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think honestly Lemmy just needs more mobile clients. Jerboa is ok, but third party clients are needed here like they are/were with reddit

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[–] AceLucario@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's with that blip of increased activity at around July 2022?

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[–] zork@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You know, it just occured to me yesterday that there might be a federated version of reddit. Looked it up and I was pleasantly surprised to see it's actually picking up a lot of users. Now if we could see a mobile app as polished as rif is fun, I'll be extremely happy. Move over reddit, let's go lemmy!

Just wondering though, how scalable is lemmy? What kind of hardware/connection would you need to host your own instance?

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[–] oreo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Hi everyone, I'm new to Lemmy! I had difficulties signing up yesterday but finally got it working tonight. I want to support 3rd party reddit app developers and reddit mods. I won't be revisiting reddit during the blackout. So far I'm really liking Lemmy so it's a strong possibility that Lemmy may replace Reddit for me :)

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