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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thank you for not calling us LatinX, I've yet to meet a Latino who doesn't hate that.

[–] Inventa@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not Latino, but I feel like that would annoy me. Latin@ as well. The language is gendered, trying to eliminate that is absurd.

[–] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’ve never understood LatinX. Is it supposed to be a gender neural Latino/Latina? I’m only a Spanish beginner but I’m fairly sure Latino can be masculine and gender neutral.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Am I the only one who reads LatinX as rhyming with larynx?

[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I read it as a Latino fetish porn site.

[–] j4p@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It was first seen in online queer activist circles around 2004. You can read a little about it here. Latino is traditionally masc/neutral but English style guides also said the same about “he” when referring to someone of unknown or unspecified gender for a long time, which has largely fallen out of use for singular “they” now.

Personally, I don’t use Latinx in writing to refer to all Latinos/Latinas as polling has shown only 2-3% of people readily identify with it. But I do think you absolutely should use it if that’s how someone personally identifies.

[–] tuto193@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"LatinX" was indeed the first attempt at a gender neutral description. "Latino" is still considered by many native speakers to be "neutral", but the most feasible solution I've seen popping up is the "latine" (as in "estudiante", "vigilante", etc). Since it uses an explicitly non-gendered suffix, it is more correctly inclusive than the "latino". It will take a while though, und until it is really widely adopted.

[–] DudePluto@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Latino" is still considered by many native speakers to be "neutral"

So like, is there any sizeable Latin community actually calling for a gender neutral term or is this just a middle-class white people thing? Because as a white person I've never seen anyone push for this other than white people and it just seems like a white savior/ daddy knows best thing. But my experience is just my experience

[–] CreativeShotgun@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I am trans and Latina and it is totally a thing. We have queer people too, we come in all the normal colors and a few weird ones too.

[–] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

My experience is also your experience.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

irish american

3/78ths irish. The fries you get at McDonalds are more irish than them

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The colonizer is strong in this one.

[–] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Hush now, she just loves really hard.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People don't understand that if you make shit up you just get laughed at

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

That depends on what you make up. If you make up the right thing you'll get celebrated by other people who like to make things up.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't care if you're ethnically Asian or African or European. If you're born here or have spent a significant portion of your life here--to me--you're culturally latino.

[–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Leave it to a white person to think they just get to use words however they want regardless of their actual definitions. SMH

[–] maudefi@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OP isn't ignorant because they're white, they're ignorant because of the impact of their social economic class on their education, life experience, and world view.

Your comment opening with:

"Leave it to a white person to..." Is blatant racism.

[–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

If I can be racist against my very own (according to the 23 and me dealy i got for Christmas 4 years ago) kind, than you know what? Fine I'll take that. White people, especially Americans who feel the need to preamble that with some other European nation like it was an additional qualifying ethnicity, suck. I dislike them. It's like, ooh look at me I'm extra white. Fuck that. They are attention seeking children and a net negative for society.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Leave it to [insert race]" is not exactly taking the high road here.

[–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that as a white person I'm aloud to call out a type of behavior that has become all to common in white people.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're allowed to do a lot of things. What I'm really getting at is what kind of person it makes you.

[–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

I'm the kind of person who is sick of being lumped in with people who look like me. White people are not my people just because we have similar pigmentation but I'm certainly not going around claiming to be some other ethnicity because i think it's a state of mind. I might have a chip on my shoulder. I was raised by a very active civil rights activist and this shit makes me sick.

[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The meme is correct. OP is wrong. It can be genetics, becaus your parents were from there but it's also a cultural thing, if you feel like it, you may be it. There's noone stopping you from it.

[–] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OMB defines "Hispanic or Latino" as a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin (also known as ethnicity).

If your family isn’t Latino and you don’t have live in a Spanish culture, you’re not Latino. You’re certainly not Latino because you “love hard”.

[–] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the definition of what "Latino" is comes from... the US institutions?

[–] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The person in the tweet is American so I used the American census definition. I’m pretty confident any reputable source doesn’t count “loving hard” as a valid reason to identify as Latino.

[–] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Obviously the "loving hard" part is dumb, but I hope you see the irony on posting this tweet and then citing for the definition of "Latino" a website from a US institution

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Welcome to modern liberalism where nothing means anything.