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[–] scytale@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

Arms dealers and contractors.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago

As with most things in life, the very few people at the top.

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putin, because USA and Europe will now send help ($$$ and weapons etc) to Israël, instead of Ukraine.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

And oil price should rise.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, because the same American media that claimed that "40 babies were beheaded" and "Shani Louk is naked and dead" and " Russia bombed this Ukrainian market" and "India landed right on the South Pole" is so reliable and unbiased. In some of these cases, we're not talking about distorting facts into some false reality. We're literally talking about making shit up that's trivial to disprove.

American journalism fucking sucks. They're incapable of identifying a multi-pulse rocket engine flight trail, despite having had almost two years of Stinger MANPADS usage in Ukraine. They're incapable of basic background research and completely incapable of considering alternative options. They'll gobble up the Israeli "audio of Hamas" despite having nobody who speaks Arabic on the media team (because everyone who does already got put on mandatory leave) and won't consider how the IDF clearly has no intelligence in Hamas given that Hamas was able to amass an attack with thousands of people without any leakage.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not "American", so not sure why you rant about "American journalism". Just stop posting from propaganda sources.

won’t consider how the IDF clearly has no intelligence in Hamas given that Hamas was able to amass an attack with thousands of people without any leakage.

You do know that Israel got warned about the attack by Egypt, but chose to ignore it? If they stopped the attack, they couldn't advance with their genocide plan this openly, so your storyline doesn't even make sense. I will just ignore you from now on.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

So Egypt has intelligence, but Israel doesn't, but also Israel does now? Interesting how the IDF only seems to have intelligence when it's convenient for your narrative.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might be Chinese state media, but they're the only ones willing to condemn American defence contractors' blatant profiteering off of the situation in Palestine. Meanwhile, Hamas is stuck scraping explosives out of unexploded Israeli munitions that landed on Gaza.

[–] r_wraith@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many rockets did Hamas alone fire at Israel during the last 10 days? That must have been a hell lot of unexploded Israeli munitions.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah? Each Hamas rocket has like 50 pounds of explosive filler and an unexploded Israeli bomb has up to 2000 pounds.

[–] r_wraith@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, from each of your purported unexploded 2000 pounds bombs, Hamas will get at most 40 of the type of rocket you mention. Since they launched over 6000 rockets in the last two weeks, they would have needed at least 150 unexpkodes 2000 pound bombs only for that. Maybe they also do get weapons/money for weapons from other sources?

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering Israel's dropped like about 1000 bombs a day in this conflict so far... You're free to work back to figure out how many munitions Israel has sent at Gaza, and you're also free to propose how Gaza got access to so many explosives despite being completely blockaded.

[–] r_wraith@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe from the same source they get the Kalashnikov-rifles and RPG-7s that you can see them using? Those are not used by the Israeli military.