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Nothing agains this place, but it is VERY cumbersome to get going. Squabbles seems super responsive and intuitive. I’ll be using both!

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[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seems pointless to switch to a different closed-source, centralized platform. Why would this be any different from Digg or Reddit? Switching to a federated system is the only way to make sure that cycle doesn't repeat.

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

yeah, I read the introduction that someone elses written for emigration, it naturally guides to toward using lemmy(or whatever more suitable fediverse alternatives). You do not want to repeat the same mistake of putting all that efforts into a community that you basically surrenders all data to who owns that domain/company.

For fediverse I can like just start my own instance or migrate and create a new account with ease, if an instance owner decides to close or transfer ownership of the server. The information is still available somewhere else. (I think later down the road it might be possible to migrate community content you created with scripts just like how you can nuke all you post history with reddit.)

[–] Gur814@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Fool me once. Shame on Digg. Fool me twice. Shame on Reddit.

[–] communist@beehaw.org 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it federated?

If not, it's not useful.

[–] bear_delune@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% I'm done investing my time in closed services controlled by capital

[–] hexbatch@fedia.io 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Closed service, where there is a single group or person controlling everything, is like a single point of failure in an otherwise good design.
I am liking these federated services more and more. I imagine as these get more popular, it will get easier to search and jump between them

[–] bear_delune@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

100% and they don't really need to reach the same critical mass as Reddit for example; in-fact they may be better if they don't

[–] Kris@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[–] pfannkuchen_gesicht@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It doean't even say who runs the site on the "about" page. The privacy policy also seems lacking. Not sure what to think of it yet.
That also doesn't work at all without javascript, not even showing anything, is off-putting

[–] MumboSauce@dmv.social 12 points 1 year ago

I’m done with closed platforms under the control of corporations. I’m done with erratic CEOs controlling my social media experience. If it’s not federated, I’m not interested.

[–] gabuwu@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I liked it briefly when I logged in but as someone on reddit pointed out, the owner encouraged others to astroturf bringing new users to the site which feels kinda icky given the way other users have also bashed lemmy alongside it.

[–] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

That sounds exactly like my experience with MeWe. I investigated them as part of the team of Goodreads refugees who were looking for a new home after the Amazon takeover. MeWe functioned as a cult, and they were (are) a walled garden. Numbers were constantly urged to recruit, recruit, recruit.

But when search engines can't see your community or your posts, and you can't even share links except to members, there's no future. Nothing you write will ever go viral. Nobody will ever stumble upon something great that you rode and decide to get involved or to follow you.

[–] kia@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's somewhat interesting. I don't like how the main developer was spamming Reddit with links to it all week then pretending like he didn't on Squabbles.

[–] Jentu@lemmy.film 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, the vibe of a social network named after petty and trivial quarrels seems to be not for me.

[–] maythebananabewithyo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I just checked it out because of this post, and I'm not really sold. It just seems... off? to me. Like the whole comments right next to the post thing and what not just made it more of a distraction than anything. I mean, it could be my adhd preventing me from focusing, but I just could feel myself becoming overwhelmed within the 5-10 minutes I was looking through it. I feel that lemmy/kbin is definitely more Reddit-like, and personally, less overwhelming. Good concept, maybe not-so-good execution for some people.

[–] cowleggies@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I agree with it feeling "off" - can't put my finger on exactly why. It feels like someone's hobby project, as in one single person. The UI feels cluttered and not well thought out.

As other people have pointed out too, it gives me a weird vibe that there's no information about who created it, who controls it, how it's moderated. And the domain was registered on GoDaddy like three months ago.. just feels really off to me.

[–] olsonexi@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Had a quick look at their TOS:

Prohibited Content:


a. Pornographic Material: The posting or sharing of explicit sexual content, including nudity, sexual acts, or any form of pornography, is strictly prohibited on Squabbles.io. This includes both visual and textual content.

This will never be an adequate replacement for reddit.

[–] small44@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I find the layout terrible

[–] GhostMagician@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

I tried it and surprisingly liked the twitter and reddit fusion, and people there for now are pretty friendly. It seems like that could appeal to the individuals who find lemmy to be too daunting to use for them.

Not everyone will move away from reddit, so I do like the idea of different alternatives popping up that could push people to make the jump to distance themselves from reddit.

[–] cowleggies@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

The horizontal blocks UI with post content on the left, and discussion on the right, frankly sucks. Weird font choices across the interface as well.

Scaling costs will be untenable if Squabbles ever starts to gain serious user traction, and then they're in the same predicament as Reddit - you have to monetize somehow in order to pay for the infrastructure. That's either ads, paid subscriptions, or selling your user data.

I don't see how this is any better than Reddit.

[–] Chuckwp@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I log on squabbles once in a while. I don’t like how the comments are always there. Sometimes I don’t want to read them. I am starting to get used to this non-centralized network thing. Seems interesting. Ultimately the winner will be the easiest one, and currently that’s Reddit itself. If these alternatives had more time for polish and better guides before the subreddit closures, they might have been more successful. But since I have discovered Lemmy now, I am going to stick around. Yup, I will use Reddit, but this is now part of my daily browse.

[–] matt@lemmy.koski.co 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah nothing wrong with several communities. They all have their place. I've been checking out tildes.net. No invite and I don't know anyone with them, but if its a place I end up spending a lot of my time on I'll find one.

[–] gabuwu@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The community at tildes in my experience seems to be pretentiously over serious, like if you make the wrong comment that seems even somewhat off topic you will get permabanned.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I felt that was telegraphed with such a limited beta, but it's good to have confirmation nonetheless.

[–] sazey@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not a fan of all the white space but the content + comment layout is very intriguing! Immediately engaging and promotes contribution IMO. Will be keeping an eye on this for sure.

edit: so I signed in and it's an upgraded UX, very polished and obviously has been in development for a while. No offence but I'd be shocked if this is open source.

[–] simple@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I've tried it and while it's pretty neat, it strikes me as more like Twitter than Reddit.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I use it sometimes. Apart from the non-federated aspect, there is a cultish mentality in some users there, which I find very annoying.

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