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Over in the community I moderate here on Lemmy world, which is history, a user posted a link about photos from India when it was colonized by Great Britain. All of us over there were like enthusiastic to the brim, then the user deleted his or her post. When the user deleted their post, there's nothing to click on for a link, and what they posted was actually a really good link. Is there a way for me to recover the link to force it to be available again? It was really good. I navigated to the link before the user deleted the post, but it isn't available now in my history in my web browser, probably due to a sync fail from Firefox. Is there any way to recover this post so my community can continue to enjoy it? Is there a way for moderators to not only see that the user deleted their post, but also interact with the deleted post to copy the link?

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You would need to find another instance that still has the content, or find someone that archived it.

If you do find it, save it immediately before that other instance realizes it's been deleted

If possible, look for it on a kbin instance. Maybe the federation issues might help you in this case

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does the moderation log save the content of text posts?

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think so, and since the log is still public it probably shouldn't.

That way if someone gets doxxed or has personal information leaked, moderators can at least somewhat remove it

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 1 year ago

That would make sense but I wouldn't be surprised if it was an oversight at this point

[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It saves it if a moderator acted on it. In this case, the user acted on it, and everything was lost. The only way the full content of something shows up in the modlog is if a mod deleted. The user deleted. I just wish I could recover the link that the user shared so I can share the link again, because I think with all my heart it's significant. I've been spending a lot of time looking for it now to just post it to my community myself. Such an impact. Historically important photos from the colonial era of India as well as present-day Pakistan and other places. Anyway, my point is that there is a difference between what the mod deletes and what the user deletes. If the mod deletes it, it's there in full in the log. If the user deletes it, no trace. Which is weird. Ever try to delete your account on here? Still can't without begging an admin for that.

[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

thank you for thinking of that. that makes sense.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or, you could respect the author who deleted it, and let it remain deleted. What you're trying to do is possible, but unethical.

[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to do anything. I don't know how to do it. The ethics of it is beyond my small mind. Really nice post that, on the ethics front, criticized British colonizing of India and other parts of Asia. I think you really need to discuss your ethics issue with the British Empire that is no more or something. I'd really love to recuperate the link that the user shared and just share it myself, nothing more. Your ethics radar is really off here. I guess you haven't heard of external links? Criticisms of colonization by Western Powers in the past? What compass guides your ethics? The one up your anus?

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Somebody wrote something for you and your sublemmy, then decided he/she wasn't happy with it and yanked it back. You want to overrule the author, take their work, keep it, share it, all against the author's wishes.

You can't see the opposite of ethics in what you're trying to do?

[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's where you're wrong, when you're on the whole "it's their work" thing. They shared a link. The link is out there. Somebody else created the content on the link. I'm still actively searching for the link, which I shall share all on my lonesome when I find it. The author did nothing more than share a link. Not much work there on the part of the author. What got up your ass, anyway? As I said in my post, I would love to have the opportunity to retrieve the link the user shared. The user didn't create the content available on the link. The link disappeared with the post deletion. Also, let's not credit people with content creation they didn't create. You're not really too smart or something and you're harassing me. Would be really nice if there was some decent moderation around here. In my community, you would have already been shut down for being belligerent when unnecessary. Also, I will share the link here for you when I fucking find it, because I am going to find this goddamn link on my own with no help from that user. Know why? Other mod is from Pakistan and studies anthropology and loves criticizing colonialism just as much as I do. And you? You're a major troll making outrageous accusations that are unfounded. I just want my URL to post again, because we loved it over there in our community. The URL. That's it. We just want our MTV and our URL.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Wait, just a link? Well, then I misunderstood, and I'm North America's third most flamboyant idiot of the day. Sorry; sermonette withdrawn. :)