and risk getting/threatened with another firing, its time to jump ship.
this post was submitted on 23 Feb 2025
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Elon Musk, ladies and gents. Genius of the World increasing government efficiency in the most inefficient way conceivable!
Do they get to renegotiate their job offers?
Exactly this.
All the people who got fired and offered to be rehired should agree to refuse unless their salary is doubled - if only because decent employers don't play with people's livelihoods like that, to teach them a lesson.
While that sounds nice, that's not going to happen. It simply isn't in the budget. They might be able to get a 10-15% raise, or a one time bonus to make up for lost wages. But I wouldn't expect more than that.
They should, but government positions are to a PayScale. You get hired "as" a GS-9 or whatever. You can go and lookup what the location pay adjustment is for your city if you're curious.
Contractors are generally paid at least double digit percentages more for the same job but can be fired/not renewed much easier. In theory.
The tradeoff was that it's pretty hard to fire a full time employee without cause, and the pension / student loan forgiveness / etc.
it’s pretty hard to fire a full time employee without cause
It doesn't look like Musk had much trouble.
You can negotiate your step in your range. And a lot of positions are 13/14 etc. I negotiated 3 steps up from GS 14 base when I started as a GS 14.
There are also a bunch of contracting arrangements where the workers are W-2 employees of a private company that has a contract with the gov to provide bulk professional services from said employees.
Those workers have some room to negotiate salaries and benefits like any private sector worker. Although the terms of the big contract can put some limits on what the private company can offer.
A lot of national labs and NASA stuff works like this.
And if they take your offer, save your money because I wouldn't put it past them pulling this shit again
I definitely would! I’m a contractor, so that doesn’t apply to me, but if it did I would definitely renegotiate.
I hope most of them got other jobs in the interim. The best of them probably did.
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Quite a story. I had no idea that's what MSN looked like though. I think I have an aneurism now.
It’s… one of the worst sites I’ve ever come across. Everything about it is shit and suggests a lack of credibility, but I am constantly surprised by the number of times they have articles I initially wanted to read.
I refuse to use MSN as a source because it's never the original source. It's only a scraper that rebrands news as its own.
Most times you cut a contract for rev share to be on there. At least, that's what we did.
This. In other communities MSN in banned as a source because of this reason. They just scrape articles and surround it with ads.
Yeah that would make sense why I unintentionally oneself on it so often. I almost always hit back or close when I end up there (usually because I click on a link that is interesting to me without interrogating the URL very closely, bad opsec I know)
