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I hear this is a rite of passage. I made it 4 weeks before I rekt all my shit (it was nvidia related). Where do I claim my sticker?

In all seriousness, now that I understand better these commands that I've been haphazardly throwing around, Id like to do a clean install. God knows what else Ive done to it. Can i just reinstall to my root partition and have my home partition work as expected?

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[–] FippleStone@aussie.zone 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah but, you're a towel.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not clear what you've done here, but I've never played with the purge command. I take it you removed a lot of basic packages. How did it happen? Wildcards?

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I can't entirely recall the precise details now, but I was trying to uninstall Nvidia and Mesa packages to fix some driver issues. Some mesa-related packages were remaining, and I couldn't figure out why, so I manually typed their names in and purged them, then proceeded to watch python, the desktop environment — everything — all uninstall haha.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It was all just bloat anyways, who needs anything besides a kernel?

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

It's a pure Linux system now! No GNU!

[–] CkrnkFrnchMn@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago
[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the truest form of Linux, without all the GNU bloat, well done! :)

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

I'd like to interject here...

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago (4 children)

My first adventure in Linux back in 2003. No idea how I achieved this, but from memory I just reinstalled and all was well.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Mr Torvald, I don’t feel so well.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 day ago

i for one welcome our grub bootlorders

"AI is gonna take over the world"

Grub: "Hold ma beer"

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Couple days ago I accidentally removed a package, not fully understanding what would happen. Ended up logging out thinking nothing of it. Couldn't log back in as there were zero sessions available. Also, for some reason a huge on-screen keyboard kept popping up a lot when I'd click on the login panels things.

I am very grateful my distro came with Timeshift by default and that I had a backup from the day before to fix everything. Also glad Rescuezilla allowed me to install Timeshift and restore.

Doesn't matter who you are or what you believe, it's definitely a rite of passage to break your system once. That is something I'll always agree with.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Last week I accidentally overwrote my configuration.nix file with garbage. If you use NixOS this should fill you with horror. If you don't, that file contains a description of your entire system -- all the packages as well as many settings tweaks to anything from GUI apps to core kernel & systemd options.

I have now learned my lesson and started using git to track my changes. Tbh, I was naively expecting to be able to roll back to a previous config and pull out my configuration file, but that's not how it works. Happily I had already split out the most difficult to reproduce sections into their own files (mostly networking stuff), so it wasn't that catastrophic, but it still turned a few minutes of tinkering into a couple hours of forehead-smacking.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you don't mess with the partitions during the install and don't format, and make the same username, you should be back to normal after a reinstall. Take a backup offline, of course.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

make sure not to reformat though. it can be a problem depending on the installer his distro uses.

i think its safer to just save the home folder, and replace it later when the system is installed.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

If you are trying a new install go for something with timeshift or Silver Blue, OpenSUSE snapshotting. You can trash the whole setup, then reboot to the previous state. A catastrophic failure becomes a 1 minute fix.

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Lol Nvidia has quiet the reputation in the Linux world. Keep at it though. We all make mistakes.

[–] GNUmer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

Ahh, baby steps.

Around fours years ago I was still using Arch and I somehow decided to try LFS on my main machine (bare metal unfortunately). Started compiling coreutils but as I forgot to specify the build directory to gmake, my /usr/bin directory was being emptied to make space for the coreutils compilation process. Bricked my whole installation.

Now I'm smarter than four years ago as I mainly use NixOS.

[–] LifeCoffeeGaming@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

One of us. One of us

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does anyone sell 'Yes, Do As I Say!' stickers?

You could possibly recover from that on console, just install few metapackages. And have backups.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Dammit, my organic memory failed yet again. It's been a while since I've seen that prompt (and I have agreed to that as well at least few times).

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

(it was nvidia related)

lel we got 'im, boys. /s

[–] No1@aussie.zone 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

Ubuntu Additional Drivers offered me a choice between 11 different nvidia drivers.

nouveau,and then a mishmash of nvidia versions, open, proprietary and server.

Like OP was probably trying to do, had to manually remove the existing driver before you could select anything. All those options were greyed out because of a 'manual installed driver'

And guess what did this 'manual installed driver'? Me? No. Ubuntu's own uograde or running the command for ubuntu to select the 'besr driver'.

Fortunately, I'd been through nvidia hell several times, and knew how to manually perform the removal and install, but felt horrified for any new users that might stumble into this. With changing versions, it can be difficult when searching to work out which results are actually relevant, and which are obsolete.

Always remember anything with a wildcard is your enemy. Triple check before you can trust it and hit enter.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Migrating a 8 year old server to fresh new hardware. Can't believe you can basically just rsync one computer to another

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

You can indeed.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

TimeShift. Life saver, and great tool for learning without having to worry about breaking shit permanently.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Can i just reinstall to my root partition and have my home partition work as expected?

Yes, but you might have to muck around with /etc/fstab. The reason is because when you install to your root partition, the installer will create a new /home in that root partition. (Unless you have an installer that's smart enough that you can tell it otherwise.)

You should be able to mount the partition in any case, but to have the system recognize it as /home it has to be properly set up in fstab.

[–] buwho@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago
[–] paradox2011@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

I feel your pain 😅🫠

Yeah, just to add another confirmation to the other comments, if you have a separate home partition you can reuse it with a new / partition and expect it to work fine. The only stuff that gets saved in your home folder is comfiguration files for your apps, along with whatever actual files you have stored. You can even swap distros (Ubuntu/Arch) and keep your home folder, though sometimes the config files and settings don't translate perfectly.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

congrats you're ready for the next step: a declarative package configuration like (non-)guix or nixos

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

FWIW each new install is faster, especially if you write down the "weird" steps.

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 8 points 1 day ago

If anything can be salvaged, I'd suggest backing those up, and then proceeding to make a fully fresh install. That will ensure you don't come across issues inherited from the previous blunders, and also, I think, will give you the chance to take the same steps, but wiser than before, and so able to avoid the issues you either caused or came across. (Also something I'd recommend maybe around every 1~2 years, precisely because of being able to restart but wiser)

[–] JustPedro@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I overwrote my ssh private key with rsync. Fortunately I had special cron job running on my servers that updates ssh public keys on a server with ssh public keys from my github account, so I just had to upload a new key to the github and wait for a few hours.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Reinstall using btrfs as the root files system and enable automatic snapshots. The data on your home partition will be fine, just make sure the installer doesn't format it.

[–] gerdesj@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

More technology does not fix daft manoeuvres! You do learn by your mistakes but keep the environment as simple as possible and add complexity later. Just like I didn't back in the day! Mind you we lived in greyscale back then.

I've been a Linux sysadmin (and I have a lot of customers) for around 25 years now and only during the last 18 months have I bothered with something funky like ZFS - Proxmox is why and that's thanks to Broadcom deciding to fuck up VMware. I have done a lot of migrations and many more to follow. BTRFS is coming along but it is not for me quite yet.

Backups are golden. Even a simple rsync of /home and /etc to a USB stick or two will do for starters. If you want a challenge then try getting the Veeam agent for Linux working, with secure boot. I suggest not yet (secure boot). However, Veeam do a community edition which is free for 10 workloads (VMs/agents). I recently recovered a HP laptop running Home Assistant to a Thinkpad and everything just worked apart from the network, which is pretty reasonable and it took about 20 minutes.

So, I suggest that you get your backups in order first and then you can muck about with confidence. If you have some time and energy then do have a go at Gentoo and/or Arch. I ran Gentoo as my daily driver for some years and now I never fear anything IT related.

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[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Nice, you get a sticker!

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Average .ml purges

[–] maplebar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

On the bright side, it's never been a better time to switch to an immutable distro...

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