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Is there a way to shop around for a Lemmy instance based on how many instances are blocking it and how many instances it's blocking? For example, I noticed that the lemmygrad.ml instance is relatively popular, but it seems like a lot of other instances block it. It also blocks a bunch of other instances. So, if there are any communities on there that might be relevant to me then I would be missing out. I guess I could just create an account on a walled instance, but I would prefer not to keep creating accounts. I'd like to just find one instance that maximizes my access. Is the answer to just run my own instance?

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[โ€“] 7eter@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

U might want to take a look at the federation map. It might be a bit overwhelming but in the settings on the bottom left you may chose blocked and allowed in order to get some insights on who federates with whom.

[โ€“] Kurt@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh wow what did lemmygrad.ml do?

[โ€“] Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're just generally annoying. They're tankies, constantly praising Putin and the CCP.

[โ€“] thevoyage@no.lastname.nz 1 points 1 year ago

Basically sums it up really, although it's great fun to drop in and stir up shit every so often.

They're completely off the deep end though.

[โ€“] rrpeak@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I hate linking you to reddit but this post came to mind Choosing an instance; and my issues with lemmygrad

[โ€“] fluffman86@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@rrpeak@feddit.de linked one reddit post while I was searching for this one, so here it is anyway:

https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/13zl7s1/fediversetips_i_do_not_recommend_lemmy_i_have/

And here's the OG mastodon post from fedi.tips:

https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379

Make sure to "Show More" on each post in the thread, including the replies. I thought it was all spamming the same post for a minute, lol.

[โ€“] salarua@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some folks think that defederation is a bad thing. OK.

Here's a little experiment you can try at home.

  1. Stop using GMail, Hey, or whatever email service you're currently using.
  2. Set up your own mail server (there's instructions on the internet).
  3. When the instructions say to use a Remote Black List just ignore them.
  4. When the instructions say to validate domains, ignore those too.
  5. When the instructions say to set up SPF, DKIM, and DMARC just let those slide.
  6. Try to send / receive email
  7. Also try to read your inbox. For added benefit turn on all notifications for received mail.

Voila. Now you have an unfettered email experience.

And this, class, is why defederation is useful.

Please send your comments to the overworked TA in the back of the room.

โ€” Craig Maloney

[โ€“] Kurt@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is running your own Lemmy instance as difficult as an email server?

[โ€“] salarua@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

probably not, but you'd get the same amount of horrible stuff as you'd get if you turned off all the security precautions on an email server. the point i'm making here by quoting Maloney is that blocking is a security precaution. less is more, and by joining an instance that doesn't block anyone, you're exposing yourself to a lot of terrible stuff. besides, instances that don't block get blocked themselves, so horrible stuff would be all you'd see

[โ€“] Kurt@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If instance 'A' has already blocked instance 'B', what does it matter to 'A' whether or not any other instances have also blocked 'B'? Would the admin have to go far out of their way to block the instances that don't block 'B' or is there a way to do it automatically?

[โ€“] salarua@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

they would have to go out of their way, but it's bad practice to block because of guilt by association. most instances have internal federation guidelines that are somewhat looser than their own rules, but still include a baseline level of decency. so an instance that doesn't allow nsfw content would federate with an instance that does (even if they wouldn't allow images to federate) as long as they don't go all freezepeach or harass everyone

[โ€“] Ada@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

tbh, there is no such instance. Not blocking any other instances is often a reason to be blocked by other instances.

An instance that blocks no one is in effect a "free" speech instance that prioritises the right to be bigoted over the need to provide safe spaces for folk. And that means that instances that value the need for safe spaces over "free" speech are going to block the instances that don't block anyone else as a means of creating and maintaining that safe space.