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Trump administration says it has begun deporting migrants to Guantánamo Bay
(www.theguardian.com)
Has the Orange Turd installed the ovens yet?
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The correct name is concentration camp. it is very important that people understand that this is a concentration camp.
The term "concentration camp" and "internment camp" are used to refer to a variety of systems that greatly differ in their severity, mortality rate, and architecture; their defining characteristic is that inmates are held outside the rule of law.[2] Extermination camps or death camps, whose primary purpose is killing, are also imprecisely referred to as "concentration camps".[3]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp
the new death camps outside of Germany's prewar borders could be kept secret from the German civil populace.[40]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp
The fact that this camp is being set up outside the jurisdiction of the rule of law makes it a concentration camp and makes it 100x worse than any other immigration prison
Sure would have been nice if Obama or Biden had actually closed Guantanamo Bay when they had the chance.
I liked to find silver linings where I can, and what I'm hoping is that when the shambles of the American government finally get back into Democratic hands (or whatever opposition party replaces them, at this point) there will finally be a realization that actual for real change is needed. Democratic politicians have been just treading water for decades now.
I'm not American so I could be way off but didn't they try but were blocked by Republicans? At the very least they reduced the count of inmates to only the more complicated ones (ie. where do they get sent to, what do we, do we completely fried this guys brain, etc)
Yeah I remember Obama wanted to close it, but then the big question of where to move the prisoners to in the US had to be answered, and nobody wanted to hold them. It was politically dead at that point.
I hope we all survive long enough for that to happen
Hahaha
Unfortunately, I've just seen the "opposition" just fall in line. A bunch of spineless geriatric Nazi sympathizers.
Bold of you to assume that'll happen in our lifetime.
First they came for the immigrants, and I did not speak out
Because I'm one of the good ones
The point of Guantanamo Bay is that it's not under Cuban law and also not quite under US law. So they really want to be able to do anything to the people they deport there.
Having seen some of these leopards-eating-my-face stories, I expect there will be Trump voters who are surprised to suddenly find themselves being tortured in Guantanamo Bay. It's very frustrating because everyone did try to warn them.
Hopefully it's just Trump supporters getting that waterboard treatment.
I guess all men are not created equal.
the man who wrote that owned ~150 people and forced children to work in a nail factory
I get the irony but we should still try to work toward the ideal not away from it.
my point is more that american propaganda has always been this. america co-opts the messaging of liberation to subjugate and harm. our best bet is to try to learn what black women were saying in that era. best way to find out is to log out the internet and start connecting with other humans around us
Of course they are. Some are just created more equal.
The cruelty is the point.
There it is! Every fucking thread. You're such a clever lad!
When is a prison camp not a prison camp? When it's run by the USA! 🥴
It's not a prison, they're just concentrating them there.
"when it's a jarhead's"
there's close potential idfk
How are undocumented immigrants being deported usually handled? I'm assuming, unless the undocumented person gives ICE a country, they usually have no idea what an undocumented immigrant's nationality is and the undocumented immigrant usually doesn't want to give a country cuz they left for a reason.
So what was happening to deported undocumented immigrants before 2025?
definitely not an expert but i believe they’re allowed a trial and can apply for asylum if they’re scared to go back to their country. at guantanamo i do not believe they have that right.
Aha! Finally unveiling their evil scheme will surely bring them down!
Oh, they announced it themselves. Well, shit.
Thank God he setup a prison camp to hold all the Trumpists and billionaires while they are waiting to be guillotined. That's going to come in handy.
Abu Ghraib: the sequel
Guantanamo is a notorious US torture facility, it doesn't need to be compared to other US torture facilities.
oh, agreed. I am talking about the proposed, insane expansion of facilities.
Are there protests happening in the US or are they all going huh he does this and that on social media
Wasn't a traditional walk out, but just yesterday there was a TikTok spread one that got a few of my students out on the street in LA to protest and cause traffic. Got in the news, at least. Normally non profits and rights groups do it, like in 2017.
Also naturally it's only Latinos in that, everyone else are very complacent right now.
The "protest" is shooting ICE agents through your fucking door and fighting to your death. Y'all can go wave flags and chant all you like. I'm sure that would have given the Nazis pause to reconsider. I won't go to them, but they'll have a fight if they come to me.
My wife is brown and legal, so yes, I have a dog in this fight. I'll be at camp trying out some new gear if anyone wants to join me.
And here I get banned for "inciting violence". Get on the trains then, at least you'll have your "morals" intact. "At least we didn't let anyone agitate!" Warm yourself with those thoughts.
Since this is about migrants and not about New Coke, i assume not.
Nah most people know migrants they care about
Do they know people without citizenship though?
But those are the "good 'ombres"