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My ISP is AT&T (located in the U.S.) and I have issues loading random websites. Currently have Google DNS set in my router, which works great. But I'm guessing there's a better, more private, option?

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[–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

quad9, blahdns, dnscry.pt, ibksturm, koki, litepay.ch serbica

[–] yuki@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago

nextdns or mullvad?

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If you need a traditional, unencrypted DNS service, check out Quad9 and AdGuard's Public DNS. If you can use DoT or DoH, use LibreDNS or Mullvad DNS. If you want more customization, check out NextDNS.

[–] dahpu@feddit.org 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Lemmchen@feddit.org 3 points 8 hours ago

Even DNSCrypt, but I think nobody really uses that.

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 28 points 23 hours ago

A simple solution is Quad9 aka 9.9.9.9. NextDNS is fairly simple but allows customization.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 21 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I recently switched to NextDNS. I used to run my own AdGuard Home with multiple DNS provider as upstream.

[–] shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml 13 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

NextDNS is the move, the clients are open sourced and they encrypt everything. Plus their free option covers all my devices, no problem. Highly recommended!

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 17 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Regular DNS can be monitored, intercepted, and modified however your ISP decides, even with you specifying custom DNS servers.

I run pihole on my LAN, with cloudflared as its upstream DNS. Cloudflared translates regular DNS into DOH using cloudflare and quad9 as the upstream DOH providers (configurable).

Pihole DOH with cloudflared

Finally I block all port 53 (dns) traffic at the router so it cannot leave my LAN. All LAN devices that want regular DNS are forced to use the LAN DNS server which wraps their requests in DOH for them. (as well as blocking ads, tracking/telemetry, and known malware sites)

[–] Lemmchen@feddit.org 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you need cloudflared? Can't you justbset DoH/DoT servers as a backend in Pi-Hole?

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Pihole doesn't directly support DOH. What I linked is their official guide for implementing it: using cloudflared.

There is other ways you can do this. This is just what I've been using.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What ISP do you use that makes you trust Cloudflare more than your ISP? You must really be between a rock and a hard place.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

I'm not all that concerned about either tbh; I was just already capturing DNS traffic and funneling it through pihole for the customizable blocking, and figured I may as well add DOH while I'm at it.

Just sharing the knowledge for those that are interested. You can use any DOH provider you like.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 20 hours ago

Adguard Home supports TLS, HTTPs, QUIC and other stuff natively, in case anyone reading wants to set up a pihole equivalent with less work for encrypted DNS.

https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdGuardHome/wiki/Configuration#upstreams

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I use a local unbound DNS server on my router with Quad9 as upstream. I actually have google DNS entirely blocked/rerouted on my router because google uses it for advertising tracking, but I get creepers out by targeted ads showing up in random places when I do do something on a totally unrelated site. Most important thing, though, is to use DNSSEC or DNS over HTTPS to reduce middlemen from using your DNS info to track what sites you visit and sell that data. Of course ISPs still see the destination of all of your data for tracking what sites you visit unless you use a VPN or similar tools, so you can't hide it from them that way.

[–] ITeeTechMonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

DNSSEC is a means of authenticating the data receives was not tampered with, such as MITM attacks, thus ensuring data integrity. It uses PKI but it's not an alternative to DoH or DoT which encrypts the DNS traffic, either over HTTPS or TLS, providing confidentiality.

DNSSEC can be used in conjunction with DoH or DoT to achieve the Security CIA triad - Confidentiality, Integrity, Authenticity.

[–] calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Do you have the local unbound server respond to DoH so that the browser also uses encrypted client hello?

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 12 points 23 hours ago

I use Mullvad DNS when I'm mobile and unbound on my pi when I'm at home

[–] abominable_panda@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Check out PrivacyGuides. They have recommendations for DNS including what others have commented

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 4 points 19 hours ago

In regards to all the answers in this thread, consider: If you're not paying for it with money, then what are you paying for it with?

The most private DNS is a recursive resolver.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Adguard DNS, so I can block ads in my entire house without having to invest in a PiHole. dns.adguard-dns.com More IPs

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 3 points 20 hours ago

I've been using Adguard public DNS for over a year across my LAN and it works great, with much less hassle than a pihole, which I previously used for years.

I miss the ability to add random hosts to either black or white lists, but in reality only used it sporadically.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

I use the cloudflare dns, but there are all kinds of adguard ones too. The Adguard app itself has a big list of options for the fallback.

If you’ve never used adguard, check it out, it can run as a container or on a pi, you just point your router dns at it

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 22 hours ago

Controld.com. I use their free version that blocks ads and online tracking and malware.