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DAITA or Multihop? (Mullvad VPN) (sopuli.xyz)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by TuxEnthusiast@sopuli.xyz to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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DAITA: Defence Against AI-guided Traffic Analysis. Which one of these would consider to be the best option for privacy? I can't have both on at the same time.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you can have both, you just might need to use something like qubes to encapsulate the traffic easily; Or use the socks5 proxies to do your own multihop proxying

It's down to your threat model: If someone is analyzing your local traffic the DAITA is valuable. If you want to obscure your geographical region then multi-hop is good.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Would adding tor on top of AIDATA (or AIDATA on top of tor) provide anything useful?

https://mullvad.net/en/help/tor-and-mullvad-vpn

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 2 days ago

Sure. It obscures the last connection from you to the VPN, so even if someone did a traffic monitoring attack to the VPN it wouldnt be trivial to map it all the way back to the user.

Of course this means your vpn operator knows you used Tor, but in my mind that's probably better then the isp knowing

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As a side note, I don't know if I maybe have something configured wrong but is DAITA supposed to absolutely massacre your connection speed? I assumed it would be slower but my connection goes from ~190Mpbs to 3Mbps when I enable it.

[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

on my phone it goes from 280 to less than 1, on pc from 700 to 400-ish which is acceptable. but idk what the heck happens on android, becomes unusable.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only a few server support d a i t a, so if you enable it, your traffic is routing to a few servers on the entire planet. So it's very slow

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I did poke around a bit more and found that I didn't have the direct mode on, so it was hopping around. Switching that on and doing a direct connection made it much better, like 50Mbps. But that's still only 25%-ish of the regular speed, whereas I thought it'd be about 50%. But way better than like 2% of the original speed which is what I had before lol.

[–] TheKaul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

I thought if you enable DAITA, you can either connect to a DAITA-Enabled server, or if you don't, it'll automatically multihop to a DAITA server. For speed I think you'd want to go straight for the DAITA but I'm fairly certain you can do both if multihopping is ideal.