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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 hour ago

If you ask me, this looks like a big possibility, as X/Twitter's evident bias towards the newly established U.S. government and their favoring of one demographic over the other could have set off Debian's move.

That's just me speculating, though. 🙃

No, you got it right. I get that you need to cover your ass to avoid a lawsuit, but it's exactly because a guy who loves the adoration of nazis owns the platform.

[–] d_k_bo@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck X.com, all my homies use wayland.social

[–] jim3692@discuss.online 2 points 43 minutes ago

It's not loading for me. Is that instance up?

[–] Slikki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago

Ship ship ship!

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 62 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

shutting out a significant portion of your community without seeking their input first isn't a sensible move for such a foundational open source project.

Ironic when X shuts out anyone who isn't logged in and shuts out anyone who doesn't pay for a blue checkmark from having visible replies.

Having an X account isn't consequence-free - if it becomes where updates occur, people have to sign up for an account and subject themselves to nazis everywhere and all manner of crypto spam just to see updates. And they have to pay Elon tribute to be heard in response. It's crazy that anyone sees it as being friendly to users.

[–] Ferk@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Were they using Twitter to provide exclusive updates not available anywhere else?

My impression from the post is that they are publishing the exact same updates in multiple locations, including mastodon at https://framapiaf.org/@debian ...so just because they were publishing in that one extra site to make it accessible to a particular subset of people does not mean all other people were being shut off from receiving updates.

However, I do agree with the move, but only because Debian being a FOSS initiative should stay away from proprietary platforms and promote FOSS.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda wondering who in that community is going to bat for Elon Musk after the last two weeks.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 10 points 10 hours ago
[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. Notably, Bluesky doesn't require an account to read posts.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Ferk@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I don't know enough detail about ATproto, but I wonder if it's technically possible to block access to posts without also blocking federation. From what I've heard the functionality is more modular than Activitypub (content indexing being a separate service from content hosting) so I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't possible.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 83 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

When it forces you to log in to view stuff, it's usefulness as a platform for announcements is substantially lessened.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I'd even say, the usefullness is fully gone.

[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

shutting out a significant portion of your community without seeking their input first isn't a sensible move for such a foundational open source project.

It actually is a perfectly sensible move, and it doesn't "shut out" anyone. If anything, prioritizing twitter is what shuts users out. They linked to two-three alternatives. What's the argument here, exactly, from the other side?

[–] Ferk@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I think the argument is that those alternatives already existed before. Twitter was not being prioritized, it was essentially mirroring the content already available in RSS, mastodon, etc. So effectively, there's now one less place where the news will be visible.

However, I do agree with the move, but only because Debian being a FOSS initiative should stay away from proprietary platforms and promote FOSS, even if it means effectively "shutting off" a portion of users who don't wanna leave the twitter bubble.

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 99 points 23 hours ago

Good riddance. Stop using Nazi platforms and join the fediverse instead.

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 48 points 21 hours ago

My town’s subreddit just started a policy to disallow links to X for similar reasons.

There is a movement to avoid the platform.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Good, now if only OpenSource devs switched from Discord to let's say Matrix/XMPP

We'd be partying

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (7 children)

go back to forums. Support in discord is awful. Discord is not as searchable as a forum public on the internet

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 34 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, forums please. I hate the idea of troubleshooting information being locked behind some stupid software we can't easily index and search. Forums can be put on archive.org, you can literally print a page, or save it as a PDF for reviewing later. You can make use of bookmark software like Linkwarden to archive things.

Discord? Not so much. You can use third party software to scrape it and save information, but no search engine can index it. Community building is great, but I loathe having to trawl through tonnes of blithering blathering conversation BS just to figure out where to find firmware for a particular chip I have is.

Makes me want to projectile vomit all over the place, throw my computer out the window, and move to convent.

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[–] usernameusername@lemm.ee 30 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

god, the replies to their tweet are awful...

[–] FFF982@lemmy.ml 18 points 17 hours ago

Why politicize everything?

Simps for X (formerly twitter)

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago

Those replies are why they are leaving. And good riddance to such a godawful platform.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 24 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] IdleSheep@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

This is to me one of the major reasons Twitter discourse is completely ruined and the platform is mostly useless for seeing what people think now.

When the only people who get to be at the top of discussions are people who pay for twitter, the only opinions that get shared are those that are pro Twitter, pro Elon, etc. Because they have a direct stake in the game.

And that's if the accounts posting aren't all bots that pay for a checkmark to boost engagement, which is almost all I see when I occasionally have to check Twitter these days.

So glad more people are leaving it. There's nothing to gain from it anymore.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 12 points 19 hours ago

That first reply highlights a major difference in how people approach the world.

Speaking very generally, conservatism and right wing politics seen to attract those who see everything as a competition and that dominating other people is what it means to be a good person. Funny that it also leads to frustrated, angry, isolated people.

So if we want to switch to using a website that doesn’t promote hurting/killing 2% of the population, we are now BOWING DOWN to the minority some of us would not rather murder.

It’s the same reason they hate DEI so much.

[–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 27 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I didn't really need another reason to love Debian more but here we are... I'm donating to Debian today

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