Needs clarification.
Maybe they just don't want people to promote murder as a form of political action, although the log is not clear.
That would be a pretty common position, probably aligned with the rules of most communities on Lemmy and can be completely unrelated to protecting corporations, the system or whatever other people are jumping to.
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Seems like another mod took things a step further than I did. I don't blame them, although I simply locked the discussion.
you literally permabanned me because I said luigi then mentioned you have a bad source, lol. Can you power trip less?
...as opposed to you outright making it explicit your aim was violence?
It would be one thing if people complained about moderation but were fully transparent about all the things that went on from their end.
That was a bait though and he never explicitly called for violence.
Why are mods so inclined to waste their time doing this?
Hmmm
Even though he says so in the screenshot that's right there?
And why do you call it bait like that's a plus?
What does he actually say?
Mod said violence and he made a cheeky retort. Them he got sanctioned. That's what a bait looks like. Mod behavior was in bad faith here.
I will let others make their judgement call but this is a common tactic used by mods on world to censor unsanctioned opinions.
The speech in question didn't rise to threat of violence, just memeing Luigi. Y'all trying to make it into something it really wasn't to justify censorship.
Their house and their rules but people should be aware what they are dealing with. Seed lemmy.world is bad for free speech and hard hitting discussions that we as society face. Only neo liberal agenda is permitted. Classic wolf in sheep coat issue.
When a conflict is being resolved, the message, the intent, and the context are taken into consideration. So suppose you have someone "bait" and cause it to slowly escalate into something that breaks both TOS and several places' laws/rules and you do something about it, only for the same exact "bait" to show up elsewhere verbatim, initially with good faith taken into consideration but then with the "baiter" revealing he fully intends the thing the people enforcing the rules fear in the first place (which, yes, if you look at what happened, entailed the violence you are denying), ruling out any hope for intent, all while everyone is piling up on a thread that has little to do with the topic they are being passionate about in the first place. What, then, do you expect would happen?
"Free speech" is seldom considered to encompass conspiracy or encouragement/incitement to engage in lawbreaking behavior, both of which are against said laws in even the most free places. At that point, someone might as well argue spying on people is free speech, based on the same "everything goes" mindset that goes into the topic, but then (emphasis on "then") you run into the people who cite their freedoms while invalidating the law saying they have boundaries on what they consider to qualify.
conspiracy or encouragement/incitement to engage in lawbreaking behavior
What is the " law breaking" behaviour here again? Which law is broken?
Y'all need to get a lawyer because these appeals to authority while talking out of your is clowny.
It's not "appeal to authority" when what I'm speaking from is the TOS (which, if you think is clowny, you can leave this domain right now). The TOS is made by those who are rightfully in charge, having formed (or inherited) the instance with their own two hands. Calling it "appeal to authority" is like calling it appeal to authority to say you own a bike and that you prefer it to not be stolen because you are its owner, even if the TOS happens to have the same things in mind as the law, whose own enforcers have the power, good or bad, to shut the domain down. Murdering people is what we would refer to here as lawbreaking behavior (which I am surprised I have to specify as it has been against the rules in every place that ever existed, except for, ironically, Germany under the Axis Powers, so take that as you will), and by extension this casts a shadow over anything that invokes/tempts it. It's not rocket science.
You attempting to portray ocean's comment as a crime, which it is not.
At best, it is ToS violation which is fine but clearly public is not pleased with this modding behaivor and hence why we are documenting the bias on this topic here.
You have the right to mod as you please and general public has the right to know the weak underpinnings you are relying on to censor public sentiment
Cheers;)
it is ToS violation which is fine
Wow, maybe, just maybe I'm not the one in the wrong here. Neither ethics or law care about public opinion, right and wrong are still right and wrong. Your underpinnings are freedom (without regard for the laws that go with freedoms, or the freedoms of Brian Thompson, which are wrongly called "murder"), populism, and inaccuracies about what went down that day... basically a recipe for "it's acceptable because I want it to be". If it was about "public sentiment", there's a lot more you wouldn't see that you do, and there wouldn't be harassment sprees in places like the DM's to try to cope.
Showing your colors, mate, thank you.
Sensibility is not a color.
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After some misunderstandings were cleared up, I was asked by our friendly neighborhood Blaze to clarify what happened three days ago, which I did in the form of an outsourced message. And then I was asked to put this here by @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com based on the understanding the outcome will be as they said it will be.
There are other important parts, but we can treat them as looping back around to this. What may be everyone's ruling?
I cannot distinguish your post so I stickies mine with a link to it https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/16235632