I find it hilarious that every single time I've been admonished about civil conduct, it's because I'm reacting to a bunch of assclowns who somehow evade any oversight.

maybe start taking the reports as self indicators?

I’m ok with a penalty box. Pointless bickering gets this sub off topic. It’s tough because people come here ready to air grievances so I think that pre-charges the atmosphere and makes it that much easier for things to get off the rails

Yes please I need one 🙏🙏🙏🙏

How about a automated system if someone downvotes a comment and then responds to that comment (or reverse), then they get tar-pitted and banned from the community for 1-hour

It would slow down people being nasty to each other and egging on a fight.

My suggestion is to warn the user first, and then if they don't comply a 3d ban. Because:

• Cooperative users are quick to comply, even without punishment.
• It helps to show other users the limit of what's considered acceptable in the community.
• When people get really worked up, a single day is not enough.

Trolls are a different can of worms. I think that users who are blatantly trolling should be removed = permabanned; there's no place for those.

Short bans are like spritzing a cat in the face. It's Skinnerian conditioning. It works.

Just make sure the behavior you're conditioning for is the behavior you want. Trolling doesn't mean "harsh language." Trolling is the infuriating nonsense that makes reasonable people reach for harsh language. Sometimes, a rude response is entirely deserved.

Well, this is drama heaven because it's for users who aren't legible to post in fedidrama (because they're involved themselves) and then they end up here. And IMO the posts kind of set the tone. You often start out with a negative impression after reading the post, and then you're likely to be negative. And it doesn't help that other comments are negative or low quality as well... Then it's super easy to drop what's left and just shitpost.

I'm not sure if I want to continue reading anyways. It's several posts a day of people whining about something they brought upon themselves. Often something completely insignificant like one removed post/comment or a one day time-out from shitposting. And half the people don't listen or get anything, neither does OP, and the commenters just flame about arbitrary things, or attack each other for their strongly held opinions... I'd say a bit more moderation would be worth a try. But don't listen to me, I'm probably not the target audience of this community.

The amount of trolling and debatemebros keep going up each thread and it looks like people are just trying to start drama here now rather than report actual mod abuse. I'm not sure how you could improve this, it seems like every one of these kinds of communities turn into drama communities with people at each other's throats each thread lol. I think temp bans would help for the most egregious offenders, but locking threads after a certain timeframe might be better? Considering the comment threads keep going on and on for some of them.

I dont like the idea of banning people for speach that isnt calling for actionable violence.

U could just delete the whole comment thread (from point of off topic onward) for reason "off topic" and that would solve almost everything.

Im not sure how reporting works never done it and nobody has reported anything on the community i mod. But i can see that people would abuse it it an attempt to silence their opposition. I think bans for clearly bad faith reports is fair.

U think people should at least be warned prior to being sent to the sinbin.

Does Lemmy provide a council/consensus type voting system on bans? How do you arbitrate it by yourself on what is or isn't "rudeness" or "trolling"?

Imo let downvotes and reports sort it out, instead of being proactive, until there is a multi-headed arbitration system in place.